LupusDeusMagnus t1_j7uoj0g wrote
Why the hell you’re are fighting for a country not your own, unless it’s some highly idealistic kind of thing.
Flako118st t1_j7vcllw wrote
You may not understand it. But most of us love this country, because we saw the before in our home countries. It's difficult but we do love this country. A shelter,a home, I wish I had the words,but for me as Mexican when I was allowed to travel I noticed how bad it is. I can call the cops,go to a hospital and even will be given free food,that's not the same in our home countries. First you pay ,and then you get help. That's it. This country took me in and I'll fight for it if needed. Idk if that makes sense.
LupusDeusMagnus t1_j7w38eu wrote
Apparently you have to live in the US to join the US army - I thought it was just people joining the US army like in Ukraine or Spain. It made things a bit more sensical, still stupid they don’t get political rights - if you put your life on the line for a country the bare minimum it could do was to concede you full political and civil rights.
Specially messed up because, you know, the US is somewhat fond of war crimes and what not, but they actually have the power to just say fuck you to the International courts and protect its war criminals from prosecution. In cases like these, of non citizens being deported, it kinda opens the opportunity for them to get sent to an international court. Basically doing that government dirty work and then being thrown to the wolves.
Flako118st t1_j7w416z wrote
Trust me I understand your point.
ContactLeft7417 t1_j7yp0dr wrote
As a Mexican who's lived in the US I highly disagree. I can live way better here. Hell, even US citizens are realizing they can too and moving in droves.
You can afford rent with minimum wage, for starters.
seakingsoyuz t1_j7ur9hm wrote
You have to be a citizen or permanent resident to enlist. PRs are trying to make it their country.
Sunshineinanchorage t1_j7uxc6i wrote
join the U.S. military, non-citizens must be living permanently and legally in the United States. Non-citizens must also have permission to work in the United States, possess an I-551 (Permanent Residence Card), have obtained a high school diploma and speak English.
Undocumented immigrants are generally barred from serving in the military, though occasionally (especially in times of military need) an undocumented person might be allowed to join the armed forces in spite of this rule.
If you are serving or have served in the U.S. armed forces and are interested in becoming a U.S. citizen, you may be eligible to apply for naturalization under special provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA).
LupusDeusMagnus t1_j7uvrbp wrote
PR? Still, the order is all wrong. You should have political rights before you’re sent to die. I cannot comprehend it being the other way around.
ProgressiveSnark2 OP t1_j7yardd wrote
PR stands for permanent resident--a term for an immigrant who has legal status for an extended period of time but is not a citizen. That can be someone on a special visa or a green card.
Oftentimes, if a family is here on a green card, the kids may end up considering enlisting.
Sunshineinanchorage t1_j7uy4gs wrote
Certain political rights do not extend themselves to non citizens. (I know…sucks). Also remember that serving in the armed forces is a choice. All members are basic riflemen irrespective of mos.
Somebodycalled911 t1_j8024gd wrote
Is it non-sensical, and even gruesome? Sure is. Then again, "non-sensical and even gruesome" could be the moto for the US and Canada's immigration and citizenship policy :(
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