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linuxliaison t1_iwbh5og wrote

You’re just creating a self fulfilling prophecy here you know

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HungryHungryHippoes9 t1_ivx2no7 wrote

The bjp and modi have been in power for 8 years now, and for those 8 years India has been continuously accused of genocide and ethnic cleansing, and I'll admit i don't really like him or his party, but we are yet to actually see any ethnic cleansing or genocide. So how about criticizing him for things he's actually done wrong, rather than harping on about shit that hasn't actually happened?

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RibeyeRare t1_ivxm36a wrote

I don’t know about ethnic cleansing and genocide, where I live, because I haven’t come across those claims. What I do know, is my Muslim friend from Mumbai said he generally felt safe but there would be no way in hell he goes near a crowd chanting jai sri ram. He said he would and has turned around and gone out of his way to avoid the problems that could arise as he walks by. He also said his reasoning is due to violence and injustice directed at Muslims from hindus in his city. Ultimately he left the country for the USA and now he feels like he can walk wherever he wants.

That sounds extremely oppressive to me, living in America.

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HungryHungryHippoes9 t1_ivxrftj wrote

1)Hostile Crowds chanting jai shri ram in Mumbai? I find that hard to believe for 2 reasons, first being that mumbai doesn't really have the issues with religion that many other parts of the country have, infact the city hasn't seen any major communal tensions in almost 3 decades, and second being that it's extremely unlikely that any one would be chanting jai shri ram because Ram isn't the most popular local deity, that would be Ganpati, and the annual Ganpati festival sees millions of participants including muslims who don't just participate in the festival but also are organizing members of some of the largest mandals the city.

  1. Aren't there cases of the proudboys, neonazis or maga republicans holding rallies in the US, where black, Jewish or people of other ethnicities wouldn't be welcome or get beaten up? Also wasn't there a case last year where a couple of men hunted down a black jogger in the middle of the street? Or how about people calling the cops on black people in their own yard? Does that mean the US has a ethnic cleansing or genocide problem? Or does that mean there are ethnic-religious tensions that simply needs more time to fade away?
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Karmabots t1_ivwz2ma wrote

Are Muslims being lynched and killed? No. I live in a locality which is Muslim majority in a state ruled by BJP. There is absolute peace and so it is in majority of places. You people don't know anything. You just read something from biased sources and tend to imagine that happening.

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Mammoth_Cut5134 t1_ivxcmb0 wrote

How is "ethnic cleansing" possible if the population of muslims keeps increasing every year? Muslims have the highest fertility rate in india and have 204 million population acc. to last census. What genocide are you talking about?

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iamawesome001 t1_ivxa9fj wrote

Ethnic cleansing? I am from India and no ethnic cleansing was done except kashmiri pandits in kashmir during 90s. What kind of bullshit you people believe

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Extension_Ad6338 t1_ivx6fy7 wrote

As long as America continues to have Biden and the Democrats in power, they deserve continuous criticism. Biden is a Christian supremacist globalist who has been at least partially responsible for ethnic cultural cleansing against people of all sorts in the World.

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blackasyourdad t1_ivzmheb wrote

how is it "ethnic cleansing" if subcontinent Hindus and Muslims are the same genetically and ethnically, with many Muslims keeping their pre-conversion Hindu names to this day?

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ThePhantomRaven t1_ivu56es wrote

And how is that related here? I am not even gonna try to explain how no one is supporting Russia and all the nuance about geopolitics cuz u guys clearly dont understand all that.

Instead lets be basic. U dont see me calling out USA for its support of SA on every post or its horrendous history on every post that mentions USA.

>It’s a moral obligation

God I havent read a more stereotypical "reddit armchair hero complex" moment type comment in my life. If u guys got rid of that insanely cringe hero complex then maybe at least ur ignorant ass would be a bit tolerable.

>Indias picked its side, it chose the side of genocide

Dont know which genocide is going on in Ukraine but u mean like the west did in 71? And if Ukraine is genocide then Israel, Saudi Arabia should also count, no? Not to mention the countless invasions of the ME in the past decades. Also the fact that Europe still buys way more than India and is the main funder of the war? India supports itself and its own needs. The west and even Ukraine have always stood against it in the past. We arnt ur slaves to suck u off after u fuck us and fund terrorists in Pakistan.

U can show ur moral high horse when ur degenerate west is completely clean of its sins which it never will be. First u guys learn to accept ur issues with dignity and the sides u chose cuz u clearly think u r some hero which u r not by a mile.

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urumipayattu t1_ivu951p wrote

But this is not the game they play. The west reserves the divine right to bomb anyone they wish whenever they wish. The ones they decide to bomb automatically become "genocidal regime".

But the real "serial genocidal regime" is the west itself. Glad that countries are calling this hypocrisy out.

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tamal4444 t1_ivuzy9n wrote

You don't know the meaning of netural?

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H0lyW4ter t1_ivxdhjd wrote

India isn't being neutral no matter how much they pretend to be neutral.

"We must always take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented"

Elie Wiesel.

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Zealousideal_Hat6843 t1_ivuof89 wrote

The west says India shouldn't ignore human rights in ukraine. Watch this video :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHZbeLdVxnY&t=0s

A transgender woman in india talks with obama and all he has to say are empty words. Aren't their rights human rights in the west now? Why didn't he risk USA's relations with india just for a single human right issue by saying indian law is wrong? Why was he so annoyingly diplomatic and careful? That's the same reason india maintains it's ties with russia.

Morons who tout morality on reddit should remember that they would turn out nazi if they were born in germany in the 30's. Either have some nuance or you might as well not bother having an opinion and wear a sign that says "racist".

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[deleted] t1_ivwphal wrote

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H0lyW4ter t1_ivxdiix wrote

Whatabout.

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Dangerous-Leg-9626 t1_ivxqs43 wrote

It's called hypocrisy

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H0lyW4ter t1_ivxrdzh wrote

Nope. Whataboutism.

The technique or practice of responding to an accusation or difficult question by making a counter-accusation or raising a different issue.

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Dangerous-Leg-9626 t1_ivxvbro wrote

Nope

It's the same issue. Where else would India get their energy? The US that's much worse than Russia?

Or where is this criticism for Europe that's buying a lot more

But nope, if the West did it then it's okay. God forbid India trying to survive the world that's gone to shit due to these westerner geopolitics

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H0lyW4ter t1_ivxvimt wrote

Its a completely different issue. Stay on topic and dont resort to whataboutism.

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Dangerous-Leg-9626 t1_iw0dih8 wrote

How is it different?

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H0lyW4ter t1_iw1sgnp wrote

Whatabout... Antarctica? There is a genocide of pinguins going on. What about that?

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Dangerous-Leg-9626 t1_iw1zywk wrote

Cool

I'll get energy from Antartica

India is neutral lmao

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H0lyW4ter t1_iw2014o wrote

Whatabout Nazi Germany?! Same issue.

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Dangerous-Leg-9626 t1_iw23q6k wrote

Whoa whoa

Whataboutism here

LMAO

But again, no problem

I mean Switzerland and Sweden and others doesn't have any issue with it, and they're directly neighbours

Why should some country thousands of miles away directly removed from everything has to take the sacrifice while the Europeans didn't

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MightyH20 t1_iw27ptw wrote

Yes he is pointing out your shear amount of whataboutism by doing exactly the same as you.

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Dangerous-Leg-9626 t1_iw28leh wrote

Yes I'm just being sarcastic

And again, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the West

India and other neutral nations never got a problem with the recent crimes of the West, whether it's NATO or Russia's despot little empire

They're just pointing out the consistency of their position which has never change in this century or the previous one

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