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fatherbowie t1_j06z365 wrote

Reply to comment by enraged768 in Oregon governor commutes all 17 of state's death sentences by Slavic_Dusa

Wow, states should just hire you to tell them who really deserves the death penalty.

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enraged768 t1_j06zbpa wrote

You're likely more kind than I am. So I'd whole heartedly recommend you or most people over myself to decide. But thankfully we have judges for that.

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seaworthy-sieve t1_j07g6zz wrote

Kindness is a choice. You can choose to be kind, don't act like it's beyond you.

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enraged768 t1_j07h5fu wrote

Of course it is. I never said it wasn't. I didn't say I wasn't kind I said he was likely more kind than I am. And you can base that off our comment thread. I'm for capital punishment when someone's caught red handed killing children. He isn't for it. So based of that he likely has a kinder soul than I. But if someone killed my kids I'd want them dead.

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seaworthy-sieve t1_j07i81g wrote

There is no world in which everyone agrees when exactly state sanctioned murder is acceptable. You say, when they're caught red handed killing children. Someone else says, DNA evidence of child sexual abuse. Someone else says, convicted of a subjectively particularly brutal crime.

Do you see how the line will never be sharp if it is permitted at all for the state to murder citizens?

I think convicted people serving a life sentence should have the option of consensual medical assistance in dying. But to force that is always inhumane. Also, in reality executions are not smooth deaths. Being shot in the head would be more dignified than the experimental, often drawn-out and downright torturous murders done to those people through lethal injections.

How many innocent people are you willing to watch be tortured to death in order to be able to have someone else enact your vengeance for you? 10? 100? How many?

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enraged768 t1_j07lxq7 wrote

If they're innocent, and they didn't kill anyone i say zero. If they were caught red handed killing my children or your children which idk if you have any and convicted I'd be willing to do it myself. I wouldnt need someone to do it for me. I'll watch in the same room. Also I agree a bullet is better than injection. Fuck em. Do you have children of your own?

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seaworthy-sieve t1_j07mk42 wrote

The point is that innocent people do die when murder is state sanctioned. Yes, some guilty people die, but innocent people are inevitably murdered as well.

What if your child grows up and is one day wrongfully convicted and given the death penalty? Would you be okay with that, as long as it means the real child killers are also being murdered?

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