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Hizjyayvu t1_j10ol3a wrote

It's a necessary step in the right direction. Although I will say I miss getting plastic bags for my groceries because I would use them at home as garbage bags for my kitchen. Sounds cheap, and it is, but those weren't "single use" for me.

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Ueladee t1_j1132oz wrote

Canadian priorities, 2022. Let the black market commence!

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Publick2008 t1_j117egz wrote

You do. Garbage bags are a high gage plastic. When Australia banned single use plastic bags the overall use of plastic increased. This is why a proper life cycle analysis of bags should be the deciding factor for policy and not optics.

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ChadSexman t1_j11a6nn wrote

I thought the same but for me personally, I’d use 1 of every 5 bags for garbage. The other four would be balled up and stuffed under the sink for “when I run out of bags”.

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Shadonir t1_j11kf1x wrote

on one hand good on the other, i hate paper straws, I'd rather just use no straw

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hackulator t1_j11nqxb wrote

Can we maybe make some actual policy changes that will make a difference and place the onus on corporations for environmental change where it belongs instead of near meaningless optic-based policies that will mostly just make life mildly more annoying for average people?

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aphasial t1_j120176 wrote

This is not uplifting news to anyone who likes their straws to be useful, or thinks thin (i.e., will degrade quicker than the thick ones) plastic bags are more environmentally friendly -- which they are by virtually every metric.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvzvM9tf5s0&t=87s

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r_sarvas t1_j121wrw wrote

I so want to see a Trailer Park Boys episode where try to make money smuggling bendy strays.

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N0CONTACT t1_j122do4 wrote

This is a nice thing but go to any grocery store and realize how many single use plastics are involved.

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SilverNicktail t1_j127neo wrote

You realise that plastic bags, takeout containers, etc are fossil fuel products, right? Aside from plastic pollution being an obvious environmental issue visible to anyone walking down any side street anywhere, it's one more chip in the oil wall.

On top of that, the ban this year is for companies, not consumers. It is a domestic production and import ban. The consumer purchase ban is next year. So you're completely off on that, too.

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SilverNicktail t1_j12wxdb wrote

Utter nonsense. By that logic an ICE car sales ban would do nothing to reduce emissions. Never mind that the end-user purchase ban comes in next year, and you've completely skipped over the ban being introduced today, which is a domestic manufacturing and import ban. You know, one aimed at the companies producing the products? "Placing the onus on corporations?"

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SuaveMofo t1_j131vbv wrote

You can't want to have a cleaner, healthier environment and still get plastic straws and containers. There are and will be sacrifices we are all going to have to make.

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Moonza79 t1_j13f421 wrote

We have just done this in Australia, all it seems to have done is create a market for heavier, thicker plastic products that you can supposedly use over and over again, but in reality get tossed in the bin. We do have some straws made from cane sugar that are much better than paper ones though.

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OneMisterSir101 t1_j13mwor wrote

Completely missing their point. They're not saying we don't have to make sacrifices. They're saying that policy that targets end-users only addresses a very small part of the problem while at the same time making the most apparently visible change.

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SilverNicktail t1_j150je0 wrote

[Citation needed]

Here's one for you: 75% of transport emissions come from road vehicles:

https://ourworldindata.org/co2-emissions-from-transport

I know it's illegal to admit you're wrong on the Internet, but maybe if someone points out you're wrong, just pulling shit out of your ass isn't the best way to take in that information.

Not that any of this changes the point that you skipped over this ban being aimed at corporations first and misrepresented it as something that exclusively targets consumers. That was the actual point being addressed.

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