Submitted by greenhousecrtv t3_yuezom in Washington
yellandtell t1_iwaoe1r wrote
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It's the right idea...how do we stop guns from coming to school?
Limit access to guns...how do we limit access to guns?
Puts laws in place that make it harder to buy guns...how do we put laws in place?
Don't vote democrat or Republican because they have failed to address it.
In summary, we can't stop school shootings until we demand more from those who we elect to represent us, but the parties in power have failed to address it. Time for real change, not just slogans.
Deprecitus t1_iwby0f2 wrote
Even a full ban on guns wouldn't solve it.
Criminals don't follow laws.
yellandtell t1_iwby6wd wrote
But it would reduce it greatly, once it's reduced we can pivot from prevention to curing the underlying issue which is ultimately mental health.
Deprecitus t1_iwbyio5 wrote
In places where you can't own guns, you see a lot less shootings, but you still see them.
There's also an increase in other forms of violence, like stabbings and vehicular homicides.
Bad people will always find a way to hurt people.
yellandtell t1_iwc3hab wrote
Agreed, we likely won't be able to stop violence. But we can reduce the occurrence which are this point is a major step forward considering the frequency of mass shootings.
Deprecitus t1_iwc5to0 wrote
I think a more effective approach would be to take a hard look at
- Parenting
- Mental Health
It's definitely a first world problem, which means we can't look to the past for answers. We need to figure this out on our own.
yellandtell t1_iwdhlj7 wrote
Yes, agreed parent and mental health are key. But why not gun controls? Fewer guns means fewer gun deaths. That's the goal.
Deprecitus t1_iwf3yri wrote
Guns are already extremely hard to get.
Like I said earlier, criminals will find ways to get weapons. I'd much rather have a gun to protect myself with than not have one and be a helpless victim.
yellandtell t1_iwf41n1 wrote
They are very easy to get, maybe the easiest place to get guns in the first world. What rock are you living under?
Deprecitus t1_iwf45hj wrote
Easiest place in the world? Maybe. Doesn't change the fact that they are not easy to get.
Do you know the process and how long it takes?
yellandtell t1_iwf47y2 wrote
Easiest in the first world and why we have the highest gun murder rate in the first world.
Deprecitus t1_iwf4rrz wrote
Nice job jumping to stereotypes and insults.
Just looked it up and the US isn't even in the top 10 in gun deaths per Capita. It's mostly South American countries.
yellandtell t1_iwf4z05 wrote
And it's not name calling, just a fact. Rednecks are obsessed with guns. I just looked it up and rednecks are in fact obsessed with guns.
Deprecitus t1_iwf5cyy wrote
As someone who is not a redneck, I see guns as valuable tools.
yellandtell t1_iwf623m wrote
Redneck is a state of mind....not a race. Trust me, based on your comment and poorly thought out logic, you'd be a redneck.
Deprecitus t1_iwf6zw6 wrote
I'm Asian, live on the west side, and I vote liberally.
Definitely not a redneck.
yellandtell t1_iwf81pu wrote
Definitely a redneck based on your logic....as a Texan I recognize that redneck is a state of mind and not a race.
Deprecitus t1_iwf89d5 wrote
Again, not a redneck. Not sure if you'd know one if it was right in front of you.
I'm sure that we agree on a lot of things.
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yellandtell t1_iwf4w6k wrote
Resting comprehension bubba....first. world. Not latin America haha but when that's your comp set.
Deprecitus t1_iwf5asq wrote
That's kinda racist, ngl. Anyways... It also looked like most of the gun related deaths in the US were suicides, with mass shootings being a very small (but highly publicized) category.
We both agree that school shootings are awful. We just have different ideas on how they can be solved. Banning guns is just a bandaid.
yellandtell t1_iwf5xww wrote
Racist or not, it's a fact. White people in Europe don't want guns, not do most white people in cities. It's these rednecks who are slowing down any meaning legislation. And use stupid logic like well the bad guys will find guns or guns don't pull the trigger people do. Or it's actually really hard to get a gun.
I could go down the street RN and have a gun by the end of the week. I could probably find a subreddit and have a fun by tomorrow tbh.
Saying it's hard to get a gun in America is quite silly and such responses can only be met with "you are a redneck." Because only a red neck would say such non sense.
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yellandtell t1_iwaraeu wrote
Not sure we can legislate mental health out of existence, but we can certainly stop people from bringing guns to school by adopting stronger gun control laws.
I am agreeing that we should ban people from bringing guns to schools, I'm just providing a more plausible solution than banning mental health. But I do agree we need more mental health treatment. Maybe instead of bailing out airlines, farming, and banks we bail out everyone that needs mental healthcare. Better yet, since we printing trillions of dollars to help banks and the economy, we could print $50B to provide mental healthcare to veterans and teenagers. Just simple solutions that I think most can agree on.
Edited some bad typos...
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