A population density map of WashingtonSubmitted by Pecners t3_zuajkb in Washington
bernyzilla t1_j1jrk38 wrote
Reply to comment by Lost_Sasquatch in A population density map of Washington by Pecners
Would it regional autonomy you advocate for allow a particular region to ban gay marriage? Reinstate Jim Crow?
>I never actually advocated for this. I just pointed out that it's clearly something that was thought about on some levels and not others.
That is correct. The solution is to give each person an equal say in all levels of politics. One person one vote, regardless of who you are or where you live.
>Lmao, it's not just conservative media man. They are all propaganda machines, right and left.
I guess you haven't argument that all media is pro corporate. But let's not pretend that MSNBC has the same effect on the left that Fox News has on the right. And either way if they're both propaganda machines, then bring back the fairness doctrine with solve the issue anyway. Would you support that?
Lost_Sasquatch t1_j1jvm2w wrote
>Would it regional autonomy you advocate for allow a particular region to ban gay marriage? Reinstate Jim Crow?
Nobody anywhere should be able to deprive people of their liberties, but we already have that going on right now so I'm not sure what your point is. Institutional discrimination is widespread already.
> That is correct. The solution is to give each person an equal say in all levels of politics. One person one vote, regardless of who you are or where you live.
You're stuck on my electoral college comparison, my point is that people living 200 miles from me, with a different culture, wants, and needs should not have the level of influence over my life that they currently do. Spreading the blame doesn't make totalitarianism less repugnant.
> But let's not pretend that MSNBC has the same effect on the left that Fox News has on the right.
That's just a matter of ratings, not content. Conservatives watch more Fox News than leftists watch the entirety of all left wing mainstream media combined.
> And either way if they're both propaganda machines, then bring back the fairness doctrine with solve the issue anyway. Would you support that?
I'm not a fan of censorship. If power was less concentrated at the top they wouldn't be able to whip the mob into a frenzy like they do. Very few issues would be relevant to the entire nation and there would be much less incentive and demand for 24/7 rage porn on mainstream media to influence high profile political issues/campaigns.
bernyzilla t1_j1kg5av wrote
I still don't agree that one side advocating for fascism and the other for universal healthcare is the same thing. At all. Conservative media is a pox on our democracy. Fox news is only good at it because propaganda is easy when you are able to lie continuously. There's a middle ground between censorship and not giving a platform to hate speech that encourages violence, or at the very least regulating what is able to be called "news"
Fine let's leave the electoral college behind for now. Hopefully you can agree it is an outdated institution. A thousand years ago 200 miles was a long way, and people can have a very different culture too much away. Fast transportation and instant communication have changed that. Things aren't really that different across the country, at least not more different than say racial and religious differences between people that could live next door to each other.
But I'm willing to hear you out, You've been some what clear about what you don't like. What do you advocate for?
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