We have a chance to help people AND profit.

Submitted by SmbdysDad t3_109llvf in Washington

Hello fellow Washingtonians. My name is Eric and I'm asking for your help. 

Washington state is once again considering the legalization of psilocybin use by those who are 21 years of age and older. This isn't the first time. SB 5660 failed to gain enough support last year and cost us another year.  I don't have to tell you that psychedelics have been all over lately. There are books, streaming shows, scientific studies and reports and more everywhere you look. The FDA has given psilocybin special status due to the positive effects which have been attributed to it recently. 

All of this indicates that psilocybin will be legalized here at some point. The question now is, how far behind will we be?  If the bill had passed last year we would still be behind Oregon. Now Colorado has legalized psilocybin as well. If we wait much longer it will be legalized federally and the giant corporate interests will dive in and our state will have missed out completely on something we should have been leading. 

Please, contact your state senator and let them know you support legalizing psilocybin. It can help so many people in so many ways. Stop holding us back and let us get our foothold in this emerging industry.  

You can find your Senator here:. https://app.leg.wa.gov/districtfinder/

If you want text to paste in:

Hello,

I'm reaching out to voice my support for SB5263. It's time to give Washingtonians access to psilocybin treatment. I vote and this subject is important to me. Thank you

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Radiant_Resident_579 t1_j40px1q wrote

As someone who struggles with depression, this would mean so much to me if this becomes legal. I have never tried it, for i fear to much of losing my job.

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Smzzms t1_j40wbwu wrote

It’s not a cure all for mental illness. A lot of people seem to think a trip will get rid of your derision or anxiety, but it could very well make it significantly worse.

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Radiant_Resident_579 t1_j415ol8 wrote

No, it is not a cure for mental illness. But many people have had significant improvement from depression, and other mental illness from pscilocybin treatments.

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Smzzms t1_j41oz9u wrote

And then tripping becomes a crutch to get through daily life. Next thing you know, people are microdosing every day, and it becomes abused.

I speak from experience with these types of people. One of my old roommates was like this and had multiple suicide attempts. The psychedelics were just another way to escape what he was really going through. We need people who are grounded in reality, not with their heads up in the clouds.

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PepeLePuget t1_j42rn71 wrote

So everyone is like your old roommate, whose abuse of illegal substances and pattern of self-harm is a lesson of what not to do and very much what supervised therapeutic treatment is intended to treat?

Do you expect someone with a broken body to not use a crutch? Are they supposed to suffer the indignity of dragging themselves around by their two or three good limbs just so you can feel better? It seems like your version of reality is wholly detached from the experience of others.

Fun fact: managing pain, trauma and disability is an important part of healing and survival.

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Smzzms t1_j430gp8 wrote

Mushrooms aren’t a crutch. That’s just the thing. A trip isn’t gonna cure your ailments. It’s going to make you think differently for a bit, but when it wears off you’re back at square one. No one needs to do mushrooms to “survive.” You’re out here romanticizing powerful drugs.

News flash, everyone is “detached from reality.” They’ll be even more detached from reality when they’re on mushrooms. You and I obviously don’t share the same world view when it comes to powerful psychedelic drugs, and that’s okay.

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PepeLePuget t1_j43bdym wrote

> Mushrooms aren’t a crutch. That’s just the thing. A trip isn’t gonna cure your ailments. It’s going to make you think differently for a bit, but when it wears off you’re back at square one. No one needs to do mushrooms to “survive.” You’re out here romanticizing powerful drugs.

Crutches don’t cure ailments either. Crutches help people function when they can’t stand or walk on their own. If they put their crutches down, they’re back to not being able to walk. No one needs crutches to survive. No one needs to be a dick on the internet either. You’re out here minimizing the usefulness of tools that help some people function.

Being physically unable to function and being mentally hung up on something that’s completely demoralizing aren’t very different. Some people go to church for that sense of hope. Some people feel like religion is gross and manipulative. Some people do yoga or play music or any number of things. Some people go to therapy and take powerful medications. Some peopl appreciate a substance that allows them to see and think differently because it helps make further growth possible. Some people don’t limit themselves to a simplistic view of the world.

Some people who don’t understand the power of psychedelics or the mind, who aren’t curious about either of them and who don’t think a psychological condition can prevent a person from overcoming trauma like to think there’s no way anyone could benefit from them, but those people are in fact wrong.

Edit: added something

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Smzzms t1_j44b9lm wrote

I’ll agree that mushrooms can be a powerful tool, maybe we will disagree on what it means to be “functional.” I don’t think people tripping helps them function better. I do like how you mentioned that psychedelics can be a tool for growth, I’d agree there. In my experience, people don’t recognize when it’s time to put the drugs away and focus on other tools for personal growth. Drugs shouldn’t be a long term solution.

I don’t want the only legal method of consuming these mushrooms to be with a yuppy doctor who is so far detached from the cultural significance of entheogenic plants, and calls it “therapy.” This feels like a grift.

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Careless-Internet-63 t1_j439k76 wrote

Is an antidepressant a crutch to get through every day life that deserves the same scrutiny? Just about any psychoactive drug can and will be abused by someone, that doesn't mean they can't help when taken properly under the supervision of a professional. It's not worth discarding a potential treatment because people might abuse it

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Smzzms t1_j449xni wrote

You may be right about not disregarding therapies because someone might abuse them.

The main issue I have is that I don’t want the only legal method of consuming these mushrooms to be with a yuppy doctor who is so far detached from the cultural significance of entheogenic plants, and calls it “therapy.” This feels like a grift!

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SmbdysDad OP t1_j41q9cx wrote

Or the psychedelics we're an attempt to deal with what we're crippling.ental health issues. Don't believe me, look at the research.

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XoomBF t1_j415zgx wrote

It could very well make it better. It very unlikely will make it worse. Its your mind just choose.

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AstroBoi7 t1_j49z183 wrote

With legalization, we can have proper education

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Jealous_Scheme6568 t1_j4y6aml wrote

Do you have thousands of dollars for treatment every month or so? Because that is how much it will cost and insurance won't cover it.

Underground use will be the only option for most folks except the very rich.

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wateranimus t1_j42s9yl wrote

Thanks for posting this! I emailed my senator and Ann Rivers has sent me an automated response that she has signed on to the bill.

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Sammy12345671 t1_j4023dz wrote

Pro psilocybin, not a fan of some of the stuff in this bill.

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BobaButt4508 t1_j408gz2 wrote

i am also pro psilocybin! without reading the bill, Im just curious what is your opposition? Colorado decriminalized, and is on the path to legalization, but it was for out of state profits lead by private investors, which is one reason I would’ve voted against their bill.

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Jealous_Scheme6568 t1_j4y6ohe wrote

> be removed.

The Colorado bill is much better as it decriminalizes in addition to creating a regulated -use system. This bill would only create a regulated-use system which will costs thousands of dollars per session and not e covered by health insurance.

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Decriminalize before you create an industry that will fight to protect their monopoly. this is a bad bill.

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BobaButt4508 t1_j408kc4 wrote

i am truly just incapable of reading the legal jargon in this bill, so if you have knowledge of it’s contents already, i’d love a summarization!! 😂

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SmbdysDad OP t1_j41qg9l wrote

I read the last one and skimmed this one. I will read and post a summary later. Watch this space.

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Smzzms t1_j40w3k7 wrote

Profit? Off a sacred medicine? That’s exactly why I’m opposed to this bill and why I oppose legalization. It’s a perversion if something sacred. White people are looking to profit off something that holds cultural significance to several peoples throughout the continent.

No one is holding you back from getting your fix and getting your high. Don’t champion this as a noble cause when your motives are corrupted by money.

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Gekokapowco t1_j42reyx wrote

I wasn't aware psilocybin was free and available here in the state already. Most people I know have to pay someone money.

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JGfromtheNW t1_j42w3bp wrote

I just want to know where you get all your free mushies.

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Smzzms t1_j430sbi wrote

My dude. They’re growing out of the freaking ground lmao

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JGfromtheNW t1_j431pej wrote

So the only way people should be allowed to consume psilocybin is if they pick them themselves or don’t pay someone who did? I'm asking because you seem to have an issue specifically with profit off of mushrooms. The vast majority of folks who use them, that I'm aware of, buy them. So are we already in a perverted state?

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Smzzms t1_j4350kd wrote

I don’t want the only legal method of consuming these mushrooms to be with a yuppy doctor who is so far detached from the cultural significance of entheogenic plants, and calls it “therapy.” This feels like a grift.

Grow them yourself. Forage them yourself. That’s part of the experience. You might be rewarded with a good trip.

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JGfromtheNW t1_j4377ku wrote

Thank you for expanding on the earlier post, I appreciate it and do agree to a certain extent.

I do believe going the way of OR, and decriminalizing and legalizing for treatment would be a big step forward.

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Smzzms t1_j449270 wrote

I understand I’m probably in the minority and that this becoming law will be inevitable. I’ll still shout at the cloud!!

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JGfromtheNW t1_j44lpwn wrote

To be honest I think so many people are just desperate for any type of progress that they’ll compromise and latch on to just about anything.

Clearly there’s a better, healthier approach to psilocybin and using mushies for treatment, I just don’t know how realistic the other avenues are in WA in 2023.

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SmbdysDad OP t1_j3zq6xn wrote

I'm a registered nurse working in a hospital. I'm not sure what you are talking about ketamine clinics.

Taking consciousness in a sacred manner is much more a feature of traditional psilocybin use than modern pharmaceutical practice.

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deadhead420710 t1_j3zzpk9 wrote

God I need more customers. If only there was a way for people to see I’m willing to drive anywhere in the state for the right price🙄

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non-member t1_j3zlput wrote

Just what we need, more drugs.

It’s bad enough that nearly every person working at the local stores and fast food places is stoned out of their fucking heads… the last thing we need is more people tripping on shrooms.

I’m all for prescription use with a therapist or something similar… but I can’t support anything more than that.

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SmbdysDad OP t1_j3zpwvf wrote

The bill sets up usage in specified facilities supervised by trained people.

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duuuh t1_j3zrl87 wrote

Makes me more likely to oppose it. Psychedelics have almost no adverse effects and there's no need to spend the money for this.

I'd be in favor of straight-up legalization though.

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SmbdysDad OP t1_j3zs7y7 wrote

This is a step. Similar to medical marijuana.

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werejer t1_j406nac wrote

Oh gosh, the people at Taco Bell are stoned?! This must have an immense negative effect on your life!

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