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DeaditeMessiah t1_j41glfu wrote

Reply to comment by benadrylpill in State senator proposes lowering WA’s blood alcohol limit to .05 by OldManJared

Because many, many social events, even religious events, involve imbibing small amounts of alcohol. If we're going this far, we should also make it illegal to eat in your car, listen to the radio or talk to passengers.

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adubski23 t1_j41mvji wrote

No, but eliminating drunk drivers-even religious ones—is a great idea.

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DeaditeMessiah t1_j41nrzp wrote

.08 does that. If you redefine drunk, the question is circular. Set it at .0001, you'll find even more "drunks".

There would need to be some strong science on this to convince me, and so far all I see is hysterical moralism, and by God, we're full up on that at the moment.

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doktorhladnjak t1_j422xx8 wrote

The difference is that at 0.0001, there is no evidence of impaired function. At 0.05, there is. You don’t have to feel drunk or even buzzed to have a slowed reaction time.

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adubski23 t1_j41qfv1 wrote

Two things. You seem to overestimate the value of your opinions, and there’s plenty of room to lock up more drunks.

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Hopsblues t1_j42lukd wrote

You aren't supposed to eat while driving already. Same with phones.

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DeaditeMessiah t1_j43bfk1 wrote

Not just while driving. Having greasy surfaces kills millions every year! Haven't you heard??

Why do you hate the children?

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benadrylpill t1_j41mpp3 wrote

You don't have to drink alcohol just because it's there. You also probably shouldn't eat while driving, either.

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DeaditeMessiah t1_j41o0dz wrote

How about driving with arguing kids in the back? I definitely think we should ban that. And I'm not providing any support either, just emptily implying anyone who disagrees is bad.

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benadrylpill t1_j41odke wrote

Who said anything about banning? It sounds like you literally cannot avoid alcohol if you are around it. There's nothing wrong whatsoever with the suggestion that if you're driving, just don't drink. Nothing. You have self control or you don't. It sounds like you don't.

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DeaditeMessiah t1_j41pbo0 wrote

Nice change of subject, and a pivot to shame. Do you think we should abolish anything that increases accident rates or not?

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TastyTeeth t1_j41rb1o wrote

You should read through this guys post history and it will explain everything.

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benadrylpill t1_j41pn69 wrote

I never said that or even implied it. Stop trying to create an argument that isn't there.

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DeaditeMessiah t1_j41scjp wrote

Ok, so if we aren't worried about accident rates, what is the actual issue here?

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benadrylpill t1_j41slt2 wrote

What's with you, man? Why are you so offended by being told to not drink? Are you an alcoholic in denial or something?Just don't drink and drive. That's it. Period. Nothing else to be said.

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DeaditeMessiah t1_j41tj33 wrote

I'm offended by non-stop attempts to turn this into a police state where the police don't solve serious crimes. If you don't like ANY drinking, move to Saudi Arabia.

Until then, I want to see facts about how many accidents this would prevent, not more sanctimonious moralizing.

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