[deleted] OP t1_irxj1hy wrote on October 11, 2022 at 7:47 PM

Reply to comment by Kirbyoto in What's your opinion on renaming Plantation Street because it's racist? by [deleted]

>And what about you? Do you have anything better to do?

Currently, I'm waiting for feedback on a document I need to process. Not much else to do.

>Everyone has GPS now, I don't imagine anyone would really give a shit if not for the race angle.

Just to be clear, street names don't matter, and Worcester streets aren't notoriously complex, and people no longer ask for directions anymore? And the only possible reason that anyone could worry about changing the name of one of the most important streets in the city could be the "race issue"?

>Sure dude. All those famous slavery-free plantations.

Well, the first picture Wikipedia shows for "plantation" is of a current tree plantation in Galilee which is - you guessed it - devoid of slavery.

>"Oh no they're renaming a street" is inventing a problem too. Again, if this wasn't done for race-related reasons, you absolutely wouldn't care. If they were renaming a street to honor a local hero or just because it sounded better, nobody on the planet would give a shit.

When they rename a street to honor a hero, they generally do that for a block or so and use both names.

People are still angry that Kilby Street's name was changed to whatever it was changed to, that Crystal Park became University Park, and so on. Just talk to any New Yorker over a certain age about 6th Ave vs. Avenue of the Americas and you'll encounter a strong opinion.

If they came and said, "We want to renamed Grafton Street because it just doesn't roll off the tongue well," do you think people wouldn't care?!

So what, what's the reason for changing the name? Who exactly has a problem with just leaving it as it is?!

Kirbyoto t1_irxk9ud wrote on October 11, 2022 at 7:55 PM

>Currently, I'm waiting for feedback on a document I need to process. Not much else to do.

OK so when you have free time it's normal but when "the medical school" has people with free time it's obviously a sign that something's wrong. Sure dude.

>Just to be clear, street names don't matter

Yes. Like I literally don't care if they change it or not. It is meaningless. But watching people like you freak out about it is frankly pathetic. You guys are so desperate for victimhood while decrying it in others.

>Well, the first picture Wikipedia shows for "plantation"

You mean the same Wikipedia page that says plantations are extensively linked with slavery in the American colonies, and even today plantations are associated with para-slavery? Wow, great investigative work. Really cracked the case with that one.

>People are still angry that Kilby Street's name was changed to whatever it was changed to, that Crystal Park became University Park, and so on. Just talk to any New Yorker over a certain age about 6th Ave vs. Avenue of the Americas and you'll encounter a strong opinion.

When you say "people" you mean a handful of people like you with too much time on their hands and too much self-importance bemoaning how much everything is changing and it's all so difficult. So yes, all those people are pathetic too. I suggest you get a hobby or something since you apparently have so much free time on your hands that you need to vice-signal about street names to show how much you don't care about racism or whatever. I, for one, do actually have better things to do than listen to you rant.

[deleted] OP t1_irxpugs wrote on October 11, 2022 at 8:31 PM

>OK so when you have free time it's normal but when "the medical school" has people with free time it's obviously a sign that something's wrong. Sure dude.

You understand that the people at the medical school are doing this as part of their actual job, right? The request is made by the medical school.

>Yes. Like I literally don't care if they change it or not. It is meaningless. But watching people like you freak out about it is frankly pathetic. You guys are so desperate for victimhood while decrying it in others.

Again, people don't like when names are changed for no reason. I gave you other examples, but you jump to "victimhood." I know it's trendy in your circles to think that everyone who doesn't agree with you is a far-right extremist, and that it's somehow a "win" to use "victimhood" against such a group, but this type of argumentation doesn't advance your cause. It's an unnecessary annoyance, and you're simply being dishonest when you say that street names don't matter.

>You mean the same Wikipedia page that says plantations are extensively linked with slavery in the American colonies, and even today plantations are associated with para-slavery? Wow, great investigative work. Really cracked the case with that one.

Yes, that article. By definition, plantations are simply crop-bearing areas with houses on them. Everything was a plantation before they started getting called "farms" in the North, well after Quinsigamond Plantation, for which the street was named, came into existence.

>When you say "people" you mean a handful of people like you with too much time on their hands and too much self-importance bemoaning how much everything is changing and it's all so difficult. So yes, all those people are pathetic too. I suggest you get a hobby or something since you apparently have so much free time on your hands that you need to vice-signal about street names to show how much you don't care about racism or whatever. I, for one, do actually have better things to do than listen to you rant.

You unironically call me pathetic and in need of a hobby because I'm engaged online on the same website that you're engaged in.

I'm guessing you don't actually interact with people outside academia, but if you do, you'll find people who are old enough to remember Crystal Park being called Crystal Park resenting its renaming, that people are split on Kilby Street. Try engaging with the public.

Itchy_Rock_726 t1_is3ectm wrote on October 13, 2022 at 12:31 AM

Mr "you need to get a hobby" to OP and others....I see you have one...engaging like a mofo trying to score points owning the local 'conservatives.' you are so invested in this discussion. Which is fine....just don't try to throw out that line to your opponents when you're this invested yourself.