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PuebloEsNoBueno t1_j9v3qze wrote

Poverty and apathy.

Many unsavory behaviors can be linked back to poverty. Why would you give a fuck about anybody else when worrying about yourself is stressful enough?

Plus, everyone else is doing it so why shouldn’t I? Clearly no one gives a shit. This is the apathy part.

I don’t agree with this mentality at all, but this is my opinion on why people behave this way.

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Neat_Young331 t1_j9vdjkh wrote

WTF does poverty have to do with people not using turn signals!?!?

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daedelous t1_j9x2mlv wrote

I’d be curious what countries/cultures those studies looked at. Poverty in one country can look a lot more anti-social than in another. You can’t blame it entirely on poverty.

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sxswnxnw t1_j9w76r7 wrote

I grew up in a very poor southern state. People there use signals waaaay more than anyone in Baltimore or Maryland. From hoopties to high end cars, it doesn't matter. Marylanders drive like they are alone on Earth.

People use signals here, it's a notable event. Give that mofo a damn plaque.

If you can keep your signal on until your maneuver is completed?! Be still, my heart.

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TheSocialistApple t1_j9y4f3d wrote

So, ya know how lead paint will fuck up your brain?

And like how having terrible nutrition will screw up your cognitive development?

And did you ever stop to think how poor neighborhoods have bad schools?

And seriously now, you really could have spent two seconds thinking about this.

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Neat_Young331 t1_j9yx2lt wrote

Again…WTF does poverty have to do with turn signals…there are a bunch of pompous assholes driving cars who think they own the road because they drive luxury cars weaving in and out of traffic for the fuck of it..point me to these ridiculous studies or is this your implicit bias/stereotype based on demographics? There are a lot of inconsiderate idiots (poor, working class and rich) making bad or absent minded decisions driving cars.

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[deleted] t1_j9zhbwk wrote

Big yikes to the baltimore subreddit that this is getting downvoted. And I await my downvotes.

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[deleted] t1_j9ywhjh wrote

Sounds like the real culprit would then be 1) lack of accountability and persecution of slum lords for being slum lords, 2) lack of appropriate urban planning and resourcing neighborhoods and schools to have proper food, 3) lack of investment in public school students and teachers. Blaming poverty low-key just blames the poor people, not the greater structure that keeps poverty as a permanent fixture.

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gaytee t1_j9wvlcg wrote

Studies suggest that the less well off you are financially the more you’re likely to focus all of your efforts on not being homeless and feeding your kids.

This starts with apathetic acts such as lack of turn signals, but then trickles into things like property crime and robbery.

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[deleted] t1_j9wdb54 wrote

Hm, I am curious about the studies. I grew up in poverty (not in Baltimore) and I think it led to a very "we're all in this together" attitude in my community.

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gmp012 t1_j9yiyp2 wrote

I don't know if there is any real studies on the matter. If you find something, please share.

But check out the "broken window" theory.

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sllewgh t1_j9ynb5a wrote

Broken window theory is deeply flawed and not accepted by contemporary academics. It confuses the symptoms of poverty for the cause.

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gmp012 t1_jaas673 wrote

Great.

So whats the current theory, if you can?

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sllewgh t1_jabk85k wrote

I can't, sorry, I've been out of school about a decade. I couldn't succinctly explain it. It shouldn't be too hard to Google if you want to follow up on it. I can tell you for sure it was already in anthropology's rear view mirror over 15 years ago.

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fountain-of-doubt t1_j9y2qhz wrote

Out of curiosity, urban, suburban, or rural?

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[deleted] t1_j9yx573 wrote

I grew up rural poor (like no indoor plumbing and no heating in the winter poor). My dad grew up the same. My mom grew up poor in the Caribbean and then in the projects of Newark. Of course there were assholes around but they weren't assholes because they were broke.

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fountain-of-doubt t1_j9zeehp wrote

That was kind of my assumption from your comment. I also grew up rural poor, and felt that community bond. But also being a poor adult in the city I can tell you it is significantly different.

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rmphys t1_j9yye2n wrote

The amount of BMW's and Lexus's I've seen not use turn signals really throws the poverty excuse out the window.

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PuebloEsNoBueno t1_j9z8ava wrote

That is probably more in line with the concept of apathy. But there are lots of people out there spending money on luxury cars that they also just simply cannot afford. You can also get a nice deal on a luxury brand car that has been totaled in an accident.

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