todareistobmore t1_j9uwf39 wrote
Reply to comment by addctd2badideas in weren't we just about a year ago talking about needing to fund alternate programs to help our youth instead of just pumping money into the police force? the new governor is increasing a police force? by Syphon6645
> but rather reforming them to where they're virtually unrecognizable from who they are now. Even if you're ideologically lazy with all the "ACAB" nonsense,
It would be far less work just to internally read ACAB as 'all cops are badly in need of reform' than to try to parse a meaningful ideological difference between your stated position and the one you're trying to dunk on.
Inevitable_Sherbet42 t1_j9v89ge wrote
OR, the people who actually want police reform can just call themselves police reformers instead of ACAB.
Because ACAB has the pretty strong connotation that policing = Cops bad.
addctd2badideas t1_j9uz2ah wrote
If people actually mean they'd prefer police reform when they say "defund" or "ACAB," then they can say that. Christ, that is such a cop-out (excuse the pun).
Because if I read between the lines, I personally look at the meaning behind them as, at best, wholly impractical, and at worst, an ideological purity test. This is why so little movement has been had in police reform... most people take this idea at face value. We don't need extremes to solve this problem. What's more is that these supposed slogans aren't really addressed to the people who need convincing. Just like conservatives, liberals and progressives do a whole shit-ton of ideological pandering.
todareistobmore t1_j9vjwdu wrote
> We don't need extremes to solve this problem.
What you called for is "reforming them to where they're virtually unrecognizable from who they are now." Who's the loudest 'reform' voice that you think embraces anything resembling this view?
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