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Cat_Hoarder0 t1_it7yvci wrote

Reply to comment by iwillmuffyou in Does 1984 ever dive into how the Party took control over Oceania? [no direct spoilers please] by INTHEMIDSTOFLIONS

> No, it actually doesn't matter at all.

You don't get to tell people what is and isn't important to them.

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Dropcity t1_it89np6 wrote

It actually doesnt at all matter as a theme of the book. Orwell makes a point to demonstrate the facts don't matter at all, reality is whatever the party says it is. I think people that have said it doesnt matter are attempting to make a point without spoilers. It can be as important as you want to make it, it is still thematically irrlevant and that isnt an accident or oversight.

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Cat_Hoarder0 t1_it89s23 wrote

> t actually doesnt at all matter as a theme of the book

Which is completely irrelevant to what the OP asked.

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Dropcity t1_it8dy4s wrote

Not at all. He wants answers to questions that are both unanswered and irrelevant. So youre going to have to explain to me how it isn't irrelevant. You stated it but i am going to need you to qualify that statement..

if he finished the book he would know this.. historical ignorance is thematic in the book, explaining that any further is a potential spoiler, knowing the history blows apart the themes of the book. Orwell makes a point of making this both ambiguous and irrelevant.

If he wouldve asked "is big brother real? Do they ever go into detail about how he rose to power".. you would find similar answers for the same reasons. "Don't know and it's irrelevant and explaining that any further could potentially spoil the book for you so just read it". If Orwell were to give answers to these questions it would ruin aspects of the story completely.

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Cat_Hoarder0 t1_it8ezxv wrote

> Not at all. He wants answers to questions that are both unanswered and irrelevant.

All he wanted to know was if the history was explored. Nothing more, nothing less. He wasn't asking about what is thematic in the book or not.

Get this. Some people are interested in the world building aspects of books, and want to know more about that part of the world.

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