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laowildin t1_j2abou6 wrote

Reply to comment by Advanced-Ad6676 in Does Don Winslow introduce endless female characters just to write explicitly about their bodies and sex lives? by hammnbubbly

So weird to me how whenever this tendency is brought up men flock to the comments to say, "But it makes sense for the character because this really is all young men think or care about!"

So yall just outing yourselves like that?!

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joeld t1_j2ai574 wrote

To the extent that it is true and they are outing themselves, maybe they could consider that exactly this kind of lizard-brain writing re women characters is part of the reason they’ve been pavloved into being obsessed like that

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fuckit_sowhat t1_j2aheym wrote

Also when they say it’s “the character, not the author” who feels/thinks this way. Okay, sure, but who wrote the character that way? The author!

So it’s not the author who is sexist towards women, but rather the character. That the author made and could have created with any characteristics they wanted. And they chose sexism.

At the end of the day though, I don’t care if the author is sexist or not, I have no interest in reading about un-challenged, blatant, casual sexism in my books that should be fun. I deal with enough of it in real life.

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zzrryll t1_j2akc7j wrote

> who wrote the character that way? The author!

Well. Plus, as a male human, I definitely think some odd thoughts here and there that I don’t see conveyed in a novel.

To your point, the author doesn’t choose to have the protagonist randomly think “Jesus. My taint smells like death today” when said protagonist hasn’t showered in a few days and they’re wearing fabrics that don’t breathe well.

In that case the author is choosing to omit random brain noise that doesn’t add to the story. I’d argue that any chatter about a woman’s bust size could also be omitted as non-pertinent brain noise.

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balwick t1_j2av03f wrote

"The author" also wrote every antagonist in those books, and the murders, genocides, and other atrocities inflicted by those characters are not held against the author.

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astonaidan t1_j2arvnn wrote

Not really outing themselves though, its literally all young men think about. It would be like me as an older man writing about seeing a nice mint tea

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