SkiingAway t1_j02r58q wrote
> Unlike most major airports, Logan remains located within the heart of a city neighborhood, which is still home to thousands of residents.
Except uh...many of them. They might be located further from downtown (or not), but many major airports are surrounded by heavily populated urban areas just like East Boston. Pretty sure if you go down the list of large hubs you'll wind up with more in that category than not. NYC, LA, Chicago, Miami, SF/Oakland, etc.
Places like Denver where it's really out in the middle of nowhere are rare, and even having it out in the low-density burbs isn't that common.
nwsm t1_j03bffv wrote
Kansas City’s airport is in the middle of nowhere and it’s a fucking pain. I live in Eastie (closer to revere) and the convenience of Logan is awesome for me. But maybe others around me who don’t fly much would rather it gone which is fair.
Ordie100 t1_j053c7i wrote
I live in Eastie, about a 10 minute walk from Logan, sure the noise is ever present but as a frequent flyer being able to literally walk to the airport is a real selling point
empire299 t1_j06xor0 wrote
I was thinking about this after finishing white lotus season 2 last night - how would you (safely) walk into Logan? Isn’t it all highways and everything else fenced off? Or are there dedicated pedestrian paths to/from Logan I’ve never seen (since I don’t walk there :))
Ordie100 t1_j06z1fz wrote
It's hard to find, no real signage or anything, but there's a link to the harborwalk by Porzio Park, from there sidewalks take you to Terminal A (from there you can keep going on the sidewalk or get on a shuttle bus to the right terminal). You can even stop off at the very well hidden 9/11 Memorial on your way.
There's also a path that goes from the Blue Line Airport stop to Terminal E, so if you lived on that side of Eastie you can walk over the tracks at airport station and then walk in that way.
The whole place isn't particularly well designed for pedestrians but I was surprised the first time I did it at the completeness of the sidewalks and pedestrian signals at traffic lights
nwsm t1_j0723hr wrote
There are roads with sidewalks around the airport, one of which leads to the bus terminal. Not sure exactly the route but it’s possible.
scarylarry2150 t1_j06re9w wrote
> Kansas City’s airport is in the middle of nowhere and it’s a fucking pain.
I fly to KC about once a year to visit extended family and this is easily my least favorite part. Gotta either budget an extra $100+ for ubers to & from the airport, or convince someone to make a 60-90 minute round-trip to come pick me up and then again to drop me off. Visited Denver this past summer and it was a similar situation.
NEU_Throwaway1 t1_j04ttia wrote
Hell, some of the lights on the Canarsie approach to JFK are located on buildings lol.
FitzwilliamTDarcy t1_j031iml wrote
Yeah that’s a weird thing to say.
SHSFilmClub t1_j04r4r3 wrote
Heathrow, Atlanta, Tokyo Narita?
SkiingAway t1_j054ca6 wrote
It's not that zero airports are located out in the middle of nowhere, it's that the premise that it's the norm for airports to be out there is misleading at best.
I will admit that I had more of the North American context in mind, as other countries do land-use and planning in very different ways.
> Tokyo Narita?
Haneda does double the volume and is both very close to Tokyo's "center" and in an extremely urban setting.
SHSFilmClub t1_j054iov wrote
Huh for the longest time I thought Haneda was domestic only
A320neo t1_j05hwp1 wrote
Both NRT and HND have international flights, but Narita has more of them. JAL7/8 is BOS-NRT.
brufleth t1_j04ua7t wrote
This... Isn't true.
https://i.redd.it/dystgqo9miez.png
There have been all kinds of ways of showing it over the years, but Boston's situation is unusual.
SkiingAway t1_j05202p wrote
No, you're misunderstanding the point.
Your graph is how far they are from the downtown of the largest urban center in their region. Not the population density of the area where they are.
You're entirely correct - most airports are not as close to the largest city center of the metro area as Boston's.
However, this doesn't mean that they aren't located in a dense urban area regardless.
For example, your graph says Newark Airport (EWR) is >10 miles from the city center of NYC. Sure, this is true.
However, it's located right next to two of the largest cities in NJ, Newark and Elizabeth, with the runways coming within 2 miles of both of their city centers, and high population densities to match.
Broadly, this is very similar to the environment of East Boston and the level of impact on the population, and certainly as much "within the heart of a city neighborhood" in terms of location as Logan is.
The same is true of NYC's other airports and my other examples.
xx9e02 t1_j04wqdb wrote
This is also a pretty inaccurate way of looking at it. Sure it may be the shortest distance from the geographical center of the city, but that doesn't mean all of these other cities neighborhoods aren't densely populated with sprawl. Take San Diego for example, they cannot expand that airport because the highrise sprawl basically goes right up next to it. Same with HNL and SJC. The list goes on... there are actually very few on that list that if you actually go in and look at their situations individually you'll find they are removed from dense areas (SMF, BWI, AUS, etc.)
brufleth t1_j04xikj wrote
Then find a different list with different metrics. There was another one I saw recently about the transit times and again Boston is near the shortest.
I travel quite a bit and Logan is close, quick, and easy to Boston. Most places are not at all.
xx9e02 t1_j04yg8l wrote
Oh don't get me wrong, I'm fully on the side of close convenient access to an airport. I'm done trying to drive 45 min - 1.5 hr just to make it to the airport (ATL, SFO).
I think the factor in play here is that there is a transit system connecting the airport to downtown in a reasonable manner, where as many other places do not have that flexibility of car vs. transit vs. uber/taxi, at least from my personal observations around the country.
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