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CLS4L t1_j15obh1 wrote

Stoping bullies is not on their job description

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ohhgrrl t1_j15tt6v wrote

If a bully is committing violence it is absolutely in the job description for adult staff to stop it.

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Effective_Golf_3311 t1_j16knia wrote

I got suspended for a week for stopping a fight by hugging the kid that was stomping on a near unconscious kid, so that was the end of my teaching career.

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Bearget0 t1_j18cd3w wrote

Given your history of shit takes on just about every topic, we can all be glad you're not teaching. :)

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Effective_Golf_3311 t1_j18fqrn wrote

Yeah teaching to the test sucked and I felt like I was doing the youth a disservice… and my feelings were apparently correct!

Plus I couldn’t fathom demanding to teach through a screen and pretending I was on the right side of history.

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RhaenyrasUncle t1_j18entw wrote

Zero-tolerance policies often tie the hands of teachers/adults from even touching students on the shoulder to pull them away from a fight.

Even more reason why we should hire armed teachers who are trained police officers and thus exempt from these zero-tolerance policies.

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kortnman t1_j18oh0b wrote

Teachers cannot do this. They are not the instrument deemed appropriate to legally deal with crime. Police are needed. Arrest and expel the violent kids. Put them in jail or reform school or whatever. It's fair, and it will really improve the school in every way.

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ohhgrrl t1_j1943cw wrote

Tell me you’ve never been a teacher without telling me you’ve never been a teacher.

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bittlelum t1_j1a6ox2 wrote

I don't know why you want to see more kids shot to death in school.

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RhaenyrasUncle t1_j1a6tt8 wrote

There would be less kids shot in schools, with increased police presence.

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bittlelum t1_j1cwvis wrote

Despite all the evidence to the contrary?

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Cameron_james t1_j16q0ga wrote

There's no "job description" for teaching. It's just whatever the new thing is you are supposed to do plus all the old things. Whose got a new acronym? We'll be doing it in a month if Newton or Lexington tries it first. Doesn't even have to work, just has to be something admin can check off as "done/did/tried" on the 5-year plan.

However, anti-bullying regulations have been a law in MA and faculty do have to deal with it.

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lurkingonya t1_j16jaqi wrote

Wrong. It is their responsibility to maintain a safe learning environmnet. The teachers are afraid of the children because the mindset is in fact that juveniles can do anything, and teachers do nothing. And the parents of these bullies should also be held responsible. What are they doing about it? Has there been a clear effort for behavior modification? Or are they simply encouraging these scourging children?

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Fumquat t1_j16ru89 wrote

Not just the mindset, it’s policies and enforced rules. Kid punches teacher = temporary consequences. Teacher safely restrains or even touches the wrong violent kid = career over.

Requiring a hands-off approach protects the district from paying out workman’s comp claims for staff injuries and protects from lawsuits when a kid with involved parents is handled roughly. Besides, shit kids are plentiful while licensed educators are scarce. Best not take unnecessary risks and leave 180 students suddenly without a science teacher, over a fight that would have ended one way or another. That’s the thinking.

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