Submitted by TuggieBoi420 t3_zwhtje in boston
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BearDen17 t1_j1urq9k wrote
Lol, big brain time! I’m glad I wasn’t the only one to immediately think of our special flat earther friends. Bless their hearts.
rushfan420 t1_j1ut4hv wrote
that's amazing op. could you see them with just a clear eye or is this magnified?
InfiniteBlink t1_j1utsrg wrote
Where on the cape? Ptown?
Horknut1 t1_j1uu3cs wrote
From the other thread “This was from a whale watching boat exiting the Ptown harbor (probably around Long Point). It was shot with an Olympus em5-II with the 40-150 2.8 + 2x teleconverter.”
crm115 t1_j1uuscm wrote
Well I guess it bends that way but the horizon isn't bending so... the earth is a CYLINDER!
/s
retromullet t1_j1uvqbd wrote
This is AWESOME! Such a cool shot.
retromullet t1_j1uvta1 wrote
What part of HOLOGRAM do you NOT UNDERSTAND? Globehead...
oogaboogaaa2 t1_j1uw7gu wrote
It’s FULLY visible from Cape Ann. We win.
IdkWhatIwant895 t1_j1uwfdy wrote
So this means you can see cape cod from the john hancock?
DoctorPepster t1_j1uwfj9 wrote
It's also fully visible from Boston. Checkmate.
oogaboogaaa2 t1_j1uwrhx wrote
But Boston isn’t on a cape. Check minus
R3M42_ t1_j1uxghn wrote
Came here to say this
kuukiechristo73 t1_j1uxyff wrote
I’m guessing it must be, it’s 50 miles. But I’m here to find out.
spokchewy t1_j1uy3jk wrote
If there were skyscrapers, it might be a lot easier.
FourAM t1_j1uyqu0 wrote
It’s obviously the waves and your perspective, maaaaaannnnnnnn /s
FourAM t1_j1uywj3 wrote
It’s the Non-Hancock now
hdjunkie t1_j1uzjsu wrote
Wait, if the earth is flat we should be able to see the bottom of those buildings!
hairy_scarecrow t1_j1uzmgu wrote
Another great view of boston is from Niles Beach in Gloucester.
hdjunkie t1_j1uzngr wrote
Haha I posted something similar before seeing this as the top comment
hairy_scarecrow t1_j1uzoh4 wrote
Niles beach, ftw!
Photog1981 t1_j1v201f wrote
How zoomed in was this picture?
kynov t1_j1v79df wrote
This doesn't seem right. The distance from the Prudential to Long Point would be 51 miles. This would obscure 1,481 feet of height (assuming the person is about 10 feet of above the water on the boat). The Prudential is only 750 feet to the roof (920 to the top of the antenna). Looking at the pic, it looks like about 1/5th of the building is visible so we can estimate that only 150 feet is visible and 600 feet obscured. This means that the photo would have to have been taken at a distance of around 33-35 miles depending on how high above the water they are. 10 feet for a small fishing boat. 15-20 feet for a large one.
Ex-Pat-Spaz t1_j1v7ix7 wrote
Dammit, you stole what I was going to say.
AcidaliaPlanitia t1_j1v9fjz wrote
Took a similar shot of Toronto across Lake Ontario
Horknut1 t1_j1vagxq wrote
I think you're missing some modifiers to your calculations. First, he said he's on a boat (likely "doing flips and shit"), so, depending on the size of the whale watching boat, he could be 20/30 feet off the surface of the water.
Also, isn't there a refractory situation with looking to the horizon? I thought I read under the right conditions, even at sea level, you could see buildings 50 miles off.
I mean, do you think this guy is lying?
thehoneybadger-x t1_j1vai01 wrote
Nicely done!
PainfulPeanutBlender t1_j1vb1s5 wrote
pffft John Hancock…it’s Herbie Hancock
Horknut1 t1_j1vb5ag wrote
https://www.reddit.com/r/boston/comments/1qcj5j/boston_skyline_as_seen_from_the_provincetown/
Interesting related thread, because this picture is from somewhere near 250 feet above ground level, at the top of the Pilgrim Monument.
richie_cunningham212 t1_j1vbi9l wrote
Yeah, I mean, you did all the work here but also just from my straight simpleton opinion it doesn't seem right. I've never heard that you could see the city from the Cape in all my years around both areas.
Plus something looks funky with the building on the far right. Like its transparency gradient is bleeding into the water appearing like it's edited.
Toastbuns t1_j1vbjyl wrote
Obviously it's the fish eye lens effect. The light reflects off all the fish eyes in the water between boston and the cape, causing this distortion and making us think the surface of the planet has a curve. The more fish out swimming the more distortion and therefore curve.
The easiest way to see this will be when global warming and ocean acidification (which doesn't exist by the way) causes a mass extinction in the oceans, fully depleting them of fish life. At this point the effect will be gone and you will see the full height of the buildings. We can already see this happening due to overfishing (which also doesn't exist) causing you to be able to see the buildings today where as 500 years ago, when more fish eyes were in the water, the tops of the buildings were not visible from the cape.
/s
Pokedude1110 t1_j1vc67b wrote
Suck on this one, flat earthers!
ahecht t1_j1vfbt7 wrote
Something something Fata Morgana something something /s
ahecht t1_j1vfwkt wrote
To see any of the Pru (excluding the antenna) from 51 miles, ignoring refractory stuff, you'd need to be 200ft up. That said, refraction can do some pretty weird things, Famously, when you get the temperature inversions just right, you can see Toronto from NY State.
Fenton_Ellsworth t1_j1vg01u wrote
> Also, isn't there a refractory situation with looking to the horizon? I thought I read under the right conditions, even at sea level, you could see buildings 50 miles off.
cwmma t1_j1vg6iq wrote
So you'd think this would be solid proof but the atmosphere refracts light (curves it downward) so the math never quite added up before that was taken into account and you would be able to see things much farther away then you should just based on geometry.
Also anytime there is real proof they just come up with more outlandish explanations
cwmma t1_j1vgfrc wrote
The atmosphere refracts light (curves it downward) so you can see things farther then geometry/trig implies
b1ack1323 t1_j1vgwme wrote
Does changing tides have any effect on that?
ahecht t1_j1vhanb wrote
Refraction caused by drastically different air and water temperatures can allow seeing objects not usually visible due to the curvature of the earth. For example, from time to time Toronto becomes visible from NY state: http://spacewatchtower.blogspot.com/2018/03/photo-rare-phenomenon-toronto-skyline.html
b1ack1323 t1_j1vhgk0 wrote
750 from ground. 775 from sea level. Not that it matters much.
ahecht t1_j1vhlme wrote
If you're on a boat, at low tide you'd be able to see 10 more feet of a building in Boston than you can at high tide. If you're on the shore it might be more like 20 feet. In any case, it's a pretty insignificant effect.
b1ack1323 t1_j1vja7l wrote
You might have a error unless I have an error:
KcurveEffect * (distance) + elevation = height visible in line of sight at a given distance
1.22 * (82 km) + 3m = 103.04m
100.04m + 3m = 103.04m (338.05 feet)
BasilExposition75 t1_j1vjgo1 wrote
Sometimes light bends depending on atmospheric conditions. That is what mirages are.
BasilExposition75 t1_j1vjnlp wrote
Light can bend in the air depending upon atmospheric conditions. This is why people see mirages.
thomase7 t1_j1vmcek wrote
There is the pilgrim tower, you can see that from our beach in Plymouth.
CommonNotCommons t1_j1vtu9r wrote
This sent me down a rabbit hole. There are in fact many pictures on this sub over the years of Boston’s skyline from Provincetown. My guess is it has to do with light refraction, because I no longer doubt this view does exist.
CommonNotCommons t1_j1vty35 wrote
Oh well, as long as you’ve never heard it.
Also that’s image compression.
richie_cunningham212 t1_j1w0krh wrote
Lol I mean I called myself out as simpleton up front but ok roast me up, dawggg.
sir_mrej t1_j1w2gwz wrote
> he's on a boat (likely "doing flips and shit")
This is one of the best sly references I've seen
sir_mrej t1_j1w2l6z wrote
Maybe OP was *wearing* a cape?
justlikethewwdove t1_j1w2rbp wrote
Yup but probably only the hills of Ptown and Truro. Everything else is too far. I'm not sure where on the cape this photo was taken but I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ptown
tbass12 t1_j1w5cu6 wrote
I fish tuna off of p-town frequently - you cannot see Boston from the cape….
RustedAxe88 t1_j1w5yay wrote
r/liminalspaces
SpindriftRascal t1_j1wa6xz wrote
What lens is that? I’ve never seen Boston from Provincetown. I’m a bit skeptical. (Except maybe from the monument.)
taurentipper t1_j1wfm60 wrote
You're the best lol
Id_Solomon t1_j1wlmxs wrote
The TOP of the Boston skyline???
Okay. So this is proof that the Earth is round.
Id_Solomon t1_j1wnatw wrote
Cool! So it's like Todd Howard said --
"See that X over there? You can Y it."
r/gaming
bossrabbit t1_j1wrjfl wrote
Judging by the size of the buildings in the picture, it looks like it was taken with one hell of a zoom lens
jelsomino t1_j1x3tnb wrote
I remember seeing Hull from Swampscott's Phillips Beach during the height of Covid epidemic. Air was incredibly clean that summer
_Lane_ t1_j1x42uh wrote
Huh. I was thinking he was enjoy carnal knowledge with a mermaid, but yeah, could also be doing flips and shit, too.
(For real: I cannot hear anyone say they are / were on a boat without that song playing. It has both ruined actually being on boats while at the same time it made talking about being on boats awesome.)
_Lane_ t1_j1x49vj wrote
NO CAPES!
_Lane_ t1_j1x4d2h wrote
TIL: You can see Boston from Lake Ontario.
_Lane_ t1_j1x4f9a wrote
You need to be on the side closer to Boston, not the side closer to Portugal.
tbass12 t1_j1x4n2f wrote
Haha - I fish the whole area all over stellwagen bank cape cod bay east of ptown etc - you Cannot see Boston from the cape…..
Zaius1968 t1_j1x8hlp wrote
I guess the earth is round…!
kauisbdvfs t1_j1xa5xe wrote
That's.... actually really cool.
Hahafuckreddit t1_j1xf4gj wrote
Probably a little fata morgana going on there. Especially with the sudden shift to cold weather mixed in with some not-as-cold-yet air right above the water.
BobSacamano47 t1_j1xfuzs wrote
Tbh you sound like a bitch who doesn't know about light curvature and water mountains.
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ahecht t1_j1xijng wrote
More like Looming than Fata Morgana (the latter would make the buildings appear to be floating or inverted). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Looming_and_similar_refraction_phenomena
AutomatedSaltShaker t1_j1xpbki wrote
Take note flat earthers.
Billymaysdealer t1_j1xvrl7 wrote
Flat earthers hate this one trick.
rashomon897 t1_j1y355b wrote
Fuck you flat earthers.
lycon3 t1_j1y66xg wrote
Take that, Kyrie.
mr_mrak t1_j1ypj1l wrote
From another comment, it was a 150mm lens on a micro 4/3 sensor with a 2x teleconverter. So 150x2x2 = 600mm equivalent. Which is quite zoomed in but nothing crazy.
-flame-retardant- t1_j1z5m1p wrote
It's called a superior mirage, and it causes light refraction when warm air travels over cold water. Light bends around the curvature of the earth.
tbass12 t1_j21b2yi wrote
I have no doubt that superior mirage is such a thing - the buildings look nothing like the Boston skyline….
-flame-retardant- t1_j21iej0 wrote
Here's an image from 10 years earlier with the same spacing between buildings.
The placement is exactly what you'd expect to see looking from the south-southeast of the Pru and the Hancock.
DunkinRadio t1_j1uqxkl wrote
So the earth is flat. Right.