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[deleted] t1_j66da8l wrote

There is a reason why people who are mentally unwell in prisons and hospitals get put on 5, 10 or 15 minute checks because they will harm themselves in an instant. And yet this guy leaves her alone for 25 minutes?

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Long-Willingness-239 t1_j66m7zo wrote

If she was that mentally ill and needed full time supervision, she should have been in an inpatient facility. If she was in an outpatient program she wasn’t deemed a serious threat to herself or others by mental health professionals that she met with every day. The system sucks and she might have not been very forthcoming with her symptoms. I don’t think it’s his fault. If professionals say she should not be left alone at home because she is unsafe, then they should have placed her into proper treatment which would have been an inpatient facility.

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Roszo21 t1_j695wng wrote

I hate to tell you, but MA has a severe shortage of inpatient facilities and the cost can be prohibitive for families even if you can find a bed. A friend's son needed inpatient treatment and had a history of violence but only could access outpatient because of lack of beds. It's apparent that many people on this thread have little knowledge of how broken MA's mental health system is.

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SnarkyChief t1_j69skqx wrote

Thank you. Take my poor person's gold 🏅🏅🏅

It is very clear that most people in this thread have no idea how broken our mental healthcare system is here in MA. It's like some of these people think that you can just stroll right into an inpatient facility and get a bed. People spend days and days and days in ERs waiting for a bed to open. And even if you get a bed, odds are that you're heading to a less-than-favorable facility.

The ignorance in here is shocking.

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goodvibes3311 t1_j69v2mh wrote

I was going to say. I had also heard (not sure if true) that she HAD been inpatient but was eventually released into the 5 day a week outpatient program. We don’t know why she was released though. It honestly could have been lack of beds or even insurance not paying for it anymore. I know someone who was released from inpatient who really should not have been but insurance stopped paying after a period of time and his family just couldn’t afford to pay out of pocket to keep him there.

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PollyDoolittle t1_j6b7nuw wrote

And if you're lucky enough to get a bed, insurance will cover 5 to 14 days and you're discharged. The system is broken.

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kauisbdvfs t1_j6ckd7r wrote

I don't think anyone is blaming the family, I think they are wondering why the fuck access to mental healthcare is so lacking in MA, a psychotic woman on the verge of murdering her own kids was allowed to be around them... that is fucked. People need to start questioning our government.

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Long-Willingness-239 t1_j6b1pyi wrote

The point of my comment was to not blame the husband but rather the system. It falls on insurance companies and the broken mental health system.

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chronicallyill_dr t1_j6burma wrote

My experience was in another country, but same. Three times I’ve needed inpatient treatment for depression, but got outpatient because there were no beds in the entire state and they put me in a very long waiting least (I’ve gotten better each time before hearing ever hearing about my turn coming up).

Each time my psychiatrist sent me on my way under the care of a family member and instructions of 24hr supervision (which is quite frankly unrealistic).

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[deleted] t1_j66njcw wrote

But there aren’t enough beds for people to get stable or even admitted. I work in psych and it is very hard to even get admitted. Even then it may be 2-3 days tops and then you are released. No one is in long enough to recover. It’s a revolving door

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kauisbdvfs t1_j6ckgk2 wrote

Makes the government lots of money too.

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Visible-Education-98 t1_j66s29n wrote

Oh please let’s not even go there with blaming the husband.

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batsofburden t1_j675h0t wrote

What if it was a violent pitbull that he left the kids alone with for 25 min. That's basically the same situation if his wife was clinically psychotic & unstable.

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tbootsbrewing t1_j68gnae wrote

Yeah, if he left three kids under the age of 6 with a dog in charge of them, that would be highly negligent. You make an excellent point.

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Imaskeet t1_j69k0sv wrote

The people working at the prisons work 8 or 12 hour shifts then get to go home. You try having to be on lockdown at your house with a crazy wife and 3 young children. Can't even leave for 5 minutes for eternity.

Tell me you wouldn't go crazy. Or crack and decide that maybe you could chance grabbing a pizza down the road just to get a break.

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