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[deleted] t1_j6mwl5p wrote

Reply to comment by FoodGuy44 in Boston's latest murder victim was just 13 by rabblebowser

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2old4badbeer t1_j6nayzj wrote

I’m sorry, but how is it “easy” to get a gun? Last time I checked I owed my hometown $100, 3 references, and ultimate discretion from the chief of police. I couldn’t even use a cigarette lighter when I was 12, nevermind find someone who could sell me an illegal firearm. This comes down to parenting.

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ClarkFable t1_j6obfr2 wrote

The fact that street guns are cheaper and easier to find than the latest gaming console is a huge red flag.

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2old4badbeer t1_j6odmu1 wrote

You can get a gun at Best Buy?

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ClarkFable t1_j6ofegv wrote

You couldn't get a PS5 for the first 2 years after its release at BB either.

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2old4badbeer t1_j6nemir wrote

Thanks for the reply. It was interesting to hear your thoughts.

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TypicalImportance525 t1_j6nxxwn wrote

Chicago is a hellhole of violence that has some of the strictest gun control laws in the country. why don’t you compare it to another city? How about Nashville or Charlotte or Charleston where the 2nd amendment is alive and well.

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TypicalImportance525 t1_j6o39sy wrote

Charleston is not in the top 65 cities in the country. North Charleston is but they aren’t the same city. Springfield Ma, Hartford Ct and Bridgeport Ct are in the top 65 as well. It’s very easy to get guns in Mass and connecticut

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TouchDownBurrito t1_j6ohzkn wrote

> Chicago is a hellhole of violence that has some of the strictest gun control laws in the country. why don’t you compare it to another city?

Chicago isn’t even in the top 10 US cites as far as murder rate goes and most of the cities “strictest gun control laws” were struck down by courts.

Top 5 are:

St Louis

Baltimore

Detroit

New Orleans

Baton Rouge

How strict are gun laws in Louisiana? Could the ease of access to guns possibly be the reason they have not one, but two cities in the top 5 murder rate in the country?

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TypicalImportance525 t1_j6ovuqc wrote

What about Michigan? What about Maryland? Why don’t you cherry pick a little more with your question

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TouchDownBurrito t1_j6p1e9p wrote

> What about Michigan? What about Maryland?

They’re 2/5, I’m focusing on the majority here.

Why do you think 3 of the top 5 are in states where guns are readily available?

Rounding out the top 10 are 2 cities in Ohio, another in Missouri, and one In Tennessee. 7/10 cities with the highest murder rate are in states with easy access to guns.

Why do you think that is?

> Why don’t you cherry pick a little more with your question

Ironic from someone who, wrongly here, cherry picked Chicago as an example.

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TypicalImportance525 t1_j6p6o5z wrote

The post I was referring to was Chicago compared to London. That’s why Chicago was mentioned.

Have you ever been to New Orleans outside of the French quarter?

How about St.Louis or Baltimore?

All 3 have extreme poverty, extreme gang violence and democrat mayors

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TypicalImportance525 t1_j6p7dl5 wrote

90 percent of all murders in Missouri are in St Louis. Now do you think they were commuted with legally owned firearms or not?

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TouchDownBurrito t1_j6paj03 wrote

> Now do you think they were commuted with legally owned firearms or not?

Now do you think a vast majority of those guns originate with a legal purchase at a gun store?

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TouchDownBurrito t1_j6padq0 wrote

> and democrat mayors

Are most gun laws set at a city or state level?

At Louisiana and Missouri red states or blue states?

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mikere t1_j6p03xp wrote

Just like VT, NH, and Maine, which have 1/6-1/3 our state's gun homicide rate while having basically no gun laws amirite

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2old4badbeer t1_j6niz03 wrote

If British delinquents are limited to knives and bats, then so aren’t adults. Why should a responsible adult be denied a firearm because of deadbeat parents who can’t bother to raise their kids properly?

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2old4badbeer t1_j6njv8k wrote

Well I think we agree on that, brother. Respect for life and each other in this world is a lost concept on kids these days.

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Particular_Ad_7831 t1_j6nmkg2 wrote

Then that's why people should be denied a firearm. Other countries DO NOT have this problem.

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Syncope7 t1_j6nno4g wrote

This argument is such a dead horse.

Guns are not going away, not because people want they to stay, but because they are a part of the social fiber of the underground. It’s completely pointless to try and “ban guns” because they simply will never go away.

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2old4badbeer t1_j6nsyxo wrote

I don’t have kids so that argument is invalid. What if your kid takes your keys and runs someone over? What if he took your keys instead of your gun? Should another parent have their car taken away for your it responsibility and your kids actions? You can’t blame other people for someone else’s actions. That’s not how it works. Maybe some people aren’t good parents and that’s the deeper problem.

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2old4badbeer t1_j6nzc7a wrote

Sounds like you’re propagating some stereotypes, but I’m not gonna go down that path. Sure the police can see a stolen car easier. But owners usually don’t know their car is stolen until hours after. Plenty of damage can be done before the police know to look twice at a car. So try again.

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2old4badbeer t1_j6o52ej wrote

I haven’t shot a firearm in years, so it’s hardly a hobby. My guns have dust on them. Stop being a sarcastic child and talk like an adult. The prevalence of guns from 2023 is no different than in 1983. Society is broken.

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charons-voyage t1_j6n0fde wrote

Obviously no guns = no shootings, but it won’t address violence in general. These kids clearly have shitty parents and are growing up disadvantaged from the start. I was taught other ways to deal with conflicts other than violence. These kids were not.

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itsonlyastrongbuzz t1_j6n468g wrote

>Teenage boys are stupid, have always been stupid, will always be stupid.

If left to their own devices? Sure. So are adults.

Start holding parents accountable and watch how smart teenagers can become.

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itsonlyastrongbuzz t1_j6n7g5m wrote

>“Helicopter parents!” >“Be accountable for your kids!” >“Let kids be kids!”

…who are you quoting?

Are they in the room with us right now?

>Wouldn’t it just be easier if children couldn’t get guns?

Your idea of Utopia is one where Boston youth:

Or my maybe simply

(That’s just in the last ten days.)

Not everyone is lucky enough to have a stay at home parent. And if we need more after school activities, jobs, funding, etc then that’s something we can address.

But kids already can’t get guns.

Maybe we figure out a way to stop them from seeking them.

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Crusader63 t1_j6nprp9 wrote

Seriously. Banning guns does nothing for this. Dude has an idiotic “solution”. You don’t see Asian, Hispanic or white boys killing each other like this.

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free_to_muse t1_j6mzfgi wrote

That’s like saying the solution to poverty is more money.

The problem is not stating the solution, it’s implementing the solution.

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