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Simon676 t1_j782qyw wrote

Reply to comment by TheDiano in W-2 Wage Distribution by Tax Bracket & Gender [OC] by takeasecond

I'm currently writing my thesis on wage gaps and this way of thinking has problems because historically many occupations have had low wages specifically because a majority of the workers in that occupation is women. Breaking it out by occupation often doesn't help much at all.

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TheDiano t1_j783k6m wrote

Yes it does, different occupations pay different wages. At my college, 80% of the engineering students were male. Females are more common in occupations like teaching. That doesn’t mean there’s a wage gap when engineers make more than teachers

Edit: you realize that wages are created by the value they create ($$), they aren’t just randomly created out of thin air

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Simon676 t1_j788szi wrote

No you of course can't just say "they're being paid more than me" and conclude you're being discriminated against, but some of the reason why engineers are being paid so much and teachers so little can partly be explained with there being more or less men and women in a specific trade.

Issue for me trying to explain this to you is that I'm coming from a country, Sweden, which has largely solved this issue and has lots of research on the subject. And I'm guessing you're from the US, where you're largely stuck at the point we were 20 years ago. I can't expect to convince you otherwise when you have lobbyists who've been spending millions telling you this shit for the past 20 years to hinder any progress.

Like even weighing in all the relevant factors like differences in trade, hours, experience, and like 20 other things you still have a massive gap in pay, one that you really can't explain with anything other than gender discrimination.

Here's a relevant graph from my thesis, showing how there still was a big gap even when properly compensating for all relevant factors:

https://www.ekonomifakta.se/webapi/chartimage/direct/png/sv/23886/1,2/all/1200

This is official data from the official governmental agency of statistics, Statistics Sweden or SCB.

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DataMan62 t1_j7jiv9p wrote

As an engineer, I can definitively say that teachers are more important than engineers. Almost exponentially more important. Teaching should pay better than tech jobs!! Not less!

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TheDiano t1_j7krors wrote

That’s your opinion, not a statement of fact

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BigPoppaPuff t1_j78ixgh wrote

> I’m currently writing my thesis on wage gaps

And if the majority of the people doing so are women, that explains the wage gap right there…

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Simon676 t1_j78jvc4 wrote

I'm studying economy, and I'm not a woman. What exactly are you trying to say with this comment? That this official data published by highly regulated governmental agencies, that is backed by a scientific consensus, is biased?

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BigPoppaPuff t1_j78kdvi wrote

You know what they say about people who graduate with degrees in economics, they’ll be able to articulate why they can’t get a job! Lol

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Simon676 t1_j78lm8v wrote

Wow... please take your bigotry elsewhere.

Not done with my studies yet, will be working towards a degree in engineering with a focus towards IT where I'll earn 70k/month SEK.

I hope you can find happiness in life.

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BigPoppaPuff t1_j78mkpa wrote

"bigotry" against whom? Economics PhDs? Lol

Congrats on your flexing about making USD $80K though, lol, glad you aren't insecure.

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Simon676 t1_j78qcnl wrote

>Congrats on your flexing about making USD $80K though, lol, glad you aren't insecure.

Well that part was just an inside joke you weren't supposed to get, no worries ;)

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