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SirFonty t1_jbtmlzl wrote

I like this alternate reality where Nevada has been copied and pasted over NewJersey. I think we’ve all done some good here today.

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mlfblf t1_jbtwx95 wrote

I hope permanent standard time prevails and not DST. May need to live in Arizona…

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microwaffles t1_jbu0brv wrote

Replying to mlfblf (#2,209,522)

I'm in Canada and the talk is about waiting for the USA to end changing the clocks so jurisdictions here can synchronize.

Of course nobody is talking about how a change to permanent DST makes less sense at higher latitudes (note the preponderance of southern states enacting permanent DST legislation where it makes more sense). In northern US and Canada it makes a lot less sense

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PedalGull013 t1_jbuea8t wrote

First true bipartisan effort of Biden’s term!!!

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today_i_burned t1_jbuml8e wrote

Why is this a tilegram? It would be a lot easier to understand as an actual map.

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r_hythlodaeus t1_jbuve1k wrote

Replying to -LadyMondegreen- (#2,210,713)

I already wake pre-dawn in winter so it’s fine. The sun rising so early would destroy me and having all of 2.5 hours of daylight at best after work would be incredibly depressing. Also probably ruinous to the tourism industry here.

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panthereal t1_jbuvhll wrote

I'd rather flip the two timings, but I guess this is OK. If you flip them we get more days with the sun setting at the same time. Seems silly to extend time for the summer

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kwijibo44 t1_jbuye1e wrote

Oh nice, it’s that terrible map that shows a landlocked Massachusetts, Maryland, North Carolina, and Virginia, and gives Idaho an awesome Pacific coast.

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TheDigitalGabeg t1_jbv1f9q wrote

Wait, the only state in the lower 48 that has the spine to dispose of decades of dumb traditions and get rid of DST ... is Arizona?

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hiricinee t1_jbv1lkp wrote

Pussies need to make it a Constitutional amendment.

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kg264 t1_jbv1zkd wrote

I’d prefer we stay on real time because you know, actual time. But ultimately we need to make a decision and stick with it. Changing clock times twice a year is so stupid.

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Code_Monkeeyz t1_jbv3rlk wrote

Or… and here me out…. Or we don’t let day light savings continue. Just keep it permanently off.

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louiswins t1_jbv53hj wrote

Replying to kg264 (#2,211,036)

I prefer permanent DST because my waking hours aren't equal before & after noon: I'd rather have an hour of sun at 6pm than at 6am (before I wake up). But like you said, just pick one and stick with it!

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5kyl3r t1_jbv60vc wrote

god no, for the sake of software developers, please do this at the federal level. daylight savings is already a pain in the ass to deal with. making it different by state would be the worst

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_BreakingGood_ t1_jbv85am wrote

Replying to scheav (#2,210,944)

There's a lot of differences. With permanent "Daylight Time", you can work a 9-5 job, get home, eat, get dressed, and still have 2 hours to enjoy the sunlight and get outside.

With permanent Standard Time, it's dark when you wake up, dark when you get home. No sunlight for you.

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scheav t1_jbv90j9 wrote

Replying to _BreakingGood_ (#2,211,255)

Businesses are going to open an hour later if it gets light an hour later. You’re going to be working later. There’s nothing special about 5pm that makes it quitting time.

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ThingThatsJustBegun t1_jbv950z wrote

All these people clamouring for permanent DST are going to regret it when they send their kids to school in the dark because the sun doesn't rise until 9:00.

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Mtfdurian t1_jbv9eo6 wrote

Replying to -LadyMondegreen- (#2,210,713)

We got it to almost 9am in the Netherlands. Indeed, it is hell. People say they want daylight after work, but the thing is, having lived on the eastern side of a timezone in the tropics, evening light is of no importance. It's the late sunrise that keeps people cling in bed for long, that creates melatonin when having to start the workday, that actually makes people depressed. Part of the dread is how up to the middle of February, the sun only rises after 8 because of the same reason why midday is rather late too in February. Once March has arrived you just see how people look more rested, even on days with horrible weather like last Friday.

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HoldenMcNeil420 t1_jbvb5fd wrote

Because who doesn't want to wake up for a week in winter where the sun rises at 9:30 am that sounds incredible.

Full stop, standard time is better from a health perspective alone.

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dandle t1_jbvfq5c wrote

These fools. If we are going to stop moving clocks, we should be making Standard Time permanent. I have to believe that a significant number of legislators pushing for permanent Daylight Saving Time incorrectly believe that DST is what we use in the winter.

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Arbiter51x t1_jbvfvq2 wrote

What does the grey colour mean? You legend only has three colours.

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Fufrasking t1_jbvg0uk wrote

Does anyone anywhere care about this issue. If so you need to learn to prioritize. Country is falling apart and this we are talking about.

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scheav t1_jbvgx2m wrote

Replying to madattak (#2,211,541)

Yes, because it’s just temporary. That’s the point. If it were permanent then business hours would be set appropriately. If you decided to shift the clock by 4 hours in your state do you think businesses would open up 4 hours before sunrise?

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scheav t1_jbvh28i wrote

Replying to _BreakingGood_ (#2,211,564)

DST is temporary. If businesses were willing to change their hours multiple times a year you wouldn’t need DST. If you made a permanent change to your time zones businesses would change hours accordingly - permanently. It’s not rocket science.

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chiliedogg t1_jbviswo wrote

If you hit me with a Spring Forward, I'm owed a goddamned Fall Back.

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Torn8oz t1_jbvja2d wrote

In what world is is this tiled view of America better than a normal map

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shruggedbeware t1_jbvly2y wrote

This makes it sound like Congress can write some bills and suddenly the Sun agrees to show up later in the day and stick around for longer lmfaoooooooo

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sneakyfattwatbadger t1_jbvo1j0 wrote

Replying to TheDigitalGabeg (#2,211,003)

They’ve never changed their clock. IN used to be in the same boat but then pretended to still be in the eastern time zone during DST confusing everything. Then they voted to stay eastern all the time and have been bitter about it since.

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qwertyorbust t1_jbvpzsl wrote

aka “How to make software developers cringe.”

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gULTwPncqlyHIH t1_jbvqn2y wrote

This is such a worthless issue to care that much about

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scojo77 t1_jbvqo2n wrote

I’m not super pumped about dropping my kid off at school before sunrise for 3 months.

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birdinbrain t1_jbvto8v wrote

It’s a shame that there is absolutely no other way to display all 50 states and any relevant territories! It’s too bad no one ever came up with a better way than this!

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EccentricFan t1_jbvtpko wrote

Replying to drakozphoenix (#2,211,595)

I really hope we don't end up failing to end DST again because people are fighting over permanent standard vs DST. Just end the atrocity that's switching time. Yeah, I have a preference for permanent DST, but that's a minor issue compared just keeping things fixed.

There's never going to be one right answer for everyone between the two, with differences in schedule, as well as all the differences in sunrise sunset time due to latitude and whether you're on the eastern vs western end of a time zone.

But get the clocks fixed and then people can try to work out the other issues locally make the greatest share of people happy. Worried about children going to school in the dark in the winter where you live? Convince the school board to push back the start time of school.

There will be growing pains/headaches involved, but the first and most important step is still to stop forcing everyone to adjust their entire life schedule biannually.

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7hought t1_jbw0y2s wrote

Replying to EccentricFan (#2,212,106)

Getting the best of both worlds of Daylight Savings and Standard time seems well worth the “atrocity” and “forcing people to adjust their entire life schedule” by shifting a single hour in the middle of the night twice a year.

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rainmace t1_jbw209m wrote

Yeah what the fuck is this map? Just make it exactly the same, but actually just be a map of all the states where they are and with full names? Like… what?

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EccentricFan t1_jbw3cuw wrote

Replying to 7hought (#2,212,373)

There are significant health risks to the sleep disruption from changing your regular sleeping pattern. Each year in both directions, there are spikes in suicides, heart attacks, strokes, accidents including car crashes.

I'm biased, because I'm especially sensitive to disruptions to my sleep schedule, and it often takes me about three weeks each way to recover my regular rhythm, meaning the time shift is actively reducing my quality of life of 10% of each year.

And getting the best of both worlds is an overly optimistic viewpoint even without all these issues. For many people year round DST would be better, and for many others year round standard would be better.

And again, there's so much sunlight variance based on where you live, that even if it was somehow carefully crafted to "get the best of both worlds" in one place, it would be ill-suited to large swaths of the country.

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Colin8tor112 t1_jbwk6by wrote

What does it mean to make daylight savings time permanent?

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OnlyOneAntidote t1_jbxvwzn wrote

As a Maine resident, all we need is to be in the Atlantic time zone

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dandle t1_jby57st wrote

Replying to CluelessMochi (#2,214,834)

There is high consensus among researchers that DST has a variety of negative health consequences and that permanently moving to DST would compound those consequences. Professional organizations, including the American Medical Association and the American Academy of Sleep Medicine, have issued statements opposed to making DST permanent.

There are two possible reasons that legislators are advocating for permanent DST: 1) They think that they are advocating for permanent Standard Time because they wrongly associate the name with the fewer hours of daylight per winter day, and 2) They are dismissing the health impacts and are working on behalf of retailers, which have found that there is increased spending with more daylit shopping hours in the afternoons and evenings.

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