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cheezitsofcool t1_iyo73du wrote

TIL There were Union Army units not just in border states but also the Deep South!

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aggasalk t1_iyossx3 wrote

There was an Army of Tennessee (confederate), and an Army of the Tennessee (union)! (I had ggg grandfathers in both)

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ShadowSlayer1441 t1_iypmi6a wrote

I can only imagine the shenanigans that caused on occasion. I’m just imaging a union depo somehow getting a shipment of confederate uniforms from a private shipping company.

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CardboardSoyuz t1_iyqyzwf wrote

I had a g'g'grandfather in the 82nd Indiana which was in the Army of the Tennessee.

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barnegatsailor t1_iyofek4 wrote

There were also some units in the CSA army made up of men from Southern Illinois. Other than border states that's the only Northern state that had troops fight for the South.

Although it is arguable that Southern Illinois was essentially a border state region in itself.

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KezAzzamean t1_iypj4cd wrote

Being from southern Illinois myself… yea. It definitely thinks.. different. Than the rest of the state.

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windershinwishes t1_iyoh94v wrote

It's important context to remember when thinking about any war, or any political conflict for that matter; there's always disagreement within populations.

It's honestly kind of troubling how we've all started using the terms "blue state" and "red state". It's so easy to simplify millions of people into colors on a map.

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stumblewiggins t1_iyomtjk wrote

>It's honestly kind of troubling how we've all started using the terms "blue state" and "red state". It's so easy to simplify millions of people into colors on a map.

Mostly it's just a shorthand to identify who they will likely vote for. Time was more states were swing states or "purple" states, but now most of them are almost preordained given the gerrymandering and polarization.

I'm less troubled by the shorthand than by why it's become so reliable

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DirtysMan t1_iyopzf0 wrote

It’s about policy and government IMHO. Minnesota and Wisconsin were virtually the same but Minnesota went blue and Wisconsin went Red. Minnesota has much higher wages, union and workers rights, better education and healthcare, better economy, etc.. All of that comes down to Blue State vs Red State. It’s across the board.

There’s no other real difference between the states other than how they are governed.

Edit:

I don’t argue with propaganda online. Wallethub is not a credible source and one year is not a trend.

Here’s a credible right leaning source, notice all the blue states in the top ranking and red states on the bottom.

https://www3.forbes.com/business/states-with-the-best-public-school-systems-ifs-vue-wnb/?slide=44

Here’s another source:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/public-school-rankings-by-state

Minnesota top 7, most years top 3.

You can look at results for decades, Minnesota’s education system has been better for decades. Blue states education has been better. And the workers that come out of schools in blue states have been more productive and better educated workers as well.

For decades. Decades, not just one year.

And world population review is a credible source:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/world-population-review/

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brett1081 t1_iyr7ky6 wrote

So according to 2022 data Minnesota is 15 in system education. Wisconsin 10. I love that you get to just make crap up and post it though with so much assurance that your right.

https://districtadministration.com/wallethub-2022-rankings-best-worst-school-systems/

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scottdenis t1_iyrnpah wrote

What's wallethub?

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DirtysMan t1_iyss3lj wrote

Wallethub is not a credible source and one year is not a trend.

Forbes is a credible right leaning source, notice all the blue states in the top ranking and red states on the bottom.

https://www3.forbes.com/business/states-with-the-best-public-school-systems-ifs-vue-wnb/?slide=44

Minnesota top 7, most years top 3.

You can look at results for decades, Minnesota’s education system has been better for decades. Blue states education has been better. And the workers that come out of schools in blue states have been more productive and better educated workers as well.

For decades. Decades, not just one year.

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phryan t1_iypabl8 wrote

I'm curious as to if there is a monuments to any of the 20 Louisiana or 18 Arkansas Union companies in their respective States, since it is 'heritage'?

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Mopman43 t1_iypg7ic wrote

A fair number of those would have been black units.

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windigo3 t1_iypwrbb wrote

That was mostly ex slaves. Roughly 200,000 black men fought for the Union.

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Husker8 t1_iyqkn1m wrote

Almost all the “colored” regiments as they were referred to back then were mustered from Northern states such as Massachusetts. Most of the Union was not for allowing African Americans to fight. Lincoln and Grant personally supporting the effort and the start of their own views on African Americans evolving forward.

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