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mycketmycket t1_j89nq0c wrote

Reply to comment by Dry-Actuary-3928 in [I ate] Swedish kebab pizza by Dackeboi

It’s not a new trend - basically every casual pizza place in Sweden has been offering it for 20+ years. Needless to say pizza places in Sweden are not usually run by Italians but often by immigrants from Lebanon or Turkey. All pizzas from places like this also come with what we call “pizza salad” which is similar to sauerkraut. Swedish pizza culture is very weird!

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Dry-Actuary-3928 t1_j89phsh wrote

Thank you very much for your response! I'm also very surprised that this type of pizzas are served for so long in Sweden. I was sure that only in Poland we have kebab pizza and stuff like this but now I see it's all over the World. So this is not only swedish weirdness. Btw i stopped thinking like this. I think this is just something new and as you can see people love it since 20 years. Have a good meal!

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smltor t1_j89tym1 wrote

>only in Poland

Nah Japan has your back. They'll share the corn and mayo with you as you "fix" any pizza sent to you.

All things being equal the crazy arse pizzas will rule the world as the die hard people die out :)

I personally prefer really simple pizza but to me arguing about toppings which "belong" on a bit of fried bread seems kind of odd.

Italy birth rate is lower than Japan and Poland from memory so logic dictates an obvious direction in pizza toppings ahahahaha

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Dry-Actuary-3928 t1_j89zg3v wrote

Hahaha I love your approach to the topic. I'd love to join your club! I'm surprised again. I thought Japans are restricted to foods. Isn't that? What about Japan classics like sushi, noodles, ramen etc.(I know that there is much more great foods in Japan except sushi , I'm sorry)

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smltor t1_j8a1vbz wrote

If you are in Poland I have some bad news for you regarding sushi and ramen ahahahaha the stuff here is really quite as unique as Polish pizza :)

On the bright side gyoza is just fried kapusta i czosznek pierogi so you'll dig that if you go to Japan.

Curry is, from memory, the biggest selling food group in Japan but it is Japanese curry which is interpreted from English curry which is interpreted from Indian curry ahahaha

I guess I'd say that Japan has more regional food specialities than Poland but an awful lot is mostly for internal tourism rather than for actual preferences. Just like in Poland, who doesn't like kielbasa podwawelska the most except those weirdos in torun?

Tempura is a portuguese thing. Ramen (and kind of most noodles) is chinese. Sushi is just the rice. Curry is english and so on.

Food is pretty cool. Unfortunately some foods are super gatekept (usually by pretty ill informed individuals) and Japanese food is one of them.

If you ever want hilarity try and post "A full English Breakfast" or "Carbonara".

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Dry-Actuary-3928 t1_j8a2t5b wrote

Yeah, true authentic Italian pasta. This is why I asked about japanese specialities. I wonder if they are stiff the same way Italians are about their carbonara. This kills me too 😂 i can see you are familiar to polish foods btw. Btw2: pasta isn't Italian invention too;) Edit: oh . You are Polakiem ;) wszystko clear

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smltor t1_j8a57gt wrote

>pasta isn't Italian invention too;

A fellow Marco Polo believer?

I mean there are some bloody great things to eat in Japan that you won't get anywhere else. I am a huge fan of Nagoya TanTanMen and a guilty lover of Ichiban Ramen (a chain that does a curry ramen which should be considered a travesty but is great) but also if you look for world gold medals in pizza, patisserie etc over the past few years you'll find Japan has quite a few.

It is a very very food oriented culture.

You can even now get really good quality NZ lamb just by the palace nowadays (traditionally Japanese have a habit of saying lamb is too smelly to eat).

[I cook for my wifes family when we are here in Poland and obviously try to to use the local stuff, my sister came to visit and I needed bacon for dinner. She was all "what brand do I buy?" Nope. Look for the yellowest bit that has some string through it and just buy it all ahahahaha]

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Dry-Actuary-3928 t1_j8a766t wrote

>A fellow Marco Polo believer?

I didn't know this is BS theory 🤔 thanks

Thanks for your response but i still don't know if Japans are type of 'this is not real Japan sushi go to hell' people.

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smltor t1_j8a9me8 wrote

>this is not real Japan sushi go to hell

Sorry, old drunk and rambly ahahaha

Nope there are tons of places in Japan that sell sushi a Pole would recognise and like. There are also tons of places that do traditional as well (often cheaper or a zillion times more expensive).

My Polish wifes favourite sushi was at a place that I would say was on the questionable level of traditional. Lots of mayo.

But like I say Japan is a food culture and food cultures do tend towards "it tastes good so it's a good idea"

In Japanese foreign words are often in a different alphabet and an awful lot of restaurants menus are almost purely in that alphabet.

In my experience people in Japan doing traditional stuff in any "this is a belief" rather than "nah it's just how I know to do it" (and I am one of the traditional people, it's why I went there) tend to be a little bit out of the ordinary. Mostly people are just doing what they do to get by.

The cultural appropriation thing which you -might- be thinking of doesn't really exist as far as I am aware (white guy, some 15 odd dans in traditional martial arts, bugger all japanese language skills). Everyone I know is super happy foreigners are even interested in Japanese stuff.

They -might- give guidance on how to make it properly when they eat TanTanmen in Warsaw ahahaha but probably they wouldn't.

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