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Terrible-Sand-3203 t1_jdw1f5t wrote

Reply to comment by MandomRix in Garmin’s Forerunner 955 review: Still king for runners and cyclists by SAT0725

Meanwhile here I am with my Apple Watch Ultra and the 8 paid apps I needed to get close to the what garmin app does, thinking wow that Garmin app was pretty good and it was free.

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Remote_Engine t1_jdws11d wrote

Counterpoint: It is exceptional, this is nitpicking of sorts? Users don’t pay for it, and the long term data trends over time are outstanding. It’s not a coach or professional training software, and once that is internalized, I think you’ll better understand that what’s being voiced here is the assumption that it should be. It can be inconsistent in some of the conclusions it draws, but it’s exceptional for free software (and the complaints are irrelevant if you’re already drafting your own training plans, and modifying them based on the physiological data you’re able to collect with this level of Forerunner)

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dburst_ t1_jdzlmp0 wrote

I’ve been a staunch apple user since the original iPod touch and one day with my Forerunner 45 was enough to make me never pick up another Apple Watch again without some type of redesign. The out of the box experience for me personally was leaps and bounds better to get me up and moving. Suggested it to my wife who swore she’d never run unless she was being chased and now she’s running more than she ever had and ENJOYS running now.

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Remote_Engine t1_jdzn8et wrote

For me, when the Forerunner could display a text from my iPhone, it was over. That piece of convenience is what I liked about the Apple Watch, but nothing else. I’ve been on the feature rich, rugged, long life Forerunners since 2018, and I can’t consider looking back. Apple worked too hard to compartmentalize features into different apps (many that are pay-for to do it well) for a fragile watch that I broke twice. After all, I’m very active and the Apple Watch simply isn’t durable enough, the features are fragmented across apps, and the cost is not inline with competitors.

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pppjurac t1_je63wqt wrote

Garmin (and Polar too imho) makes excellent sport watches with some smartwatch functionality, while Apple makes fashionable quality smartwatch with some sport functionality.

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jlusedude t1_je2ctlz wrote

I agree with this. I’ve changed from Apple to full Garmin and what Connect does and aggregates is awesome. I have Fenix 7x, Index S2 smart scale, Vector 3 dual sided pedals, Edge 1030+ and HRM Pro+, the ability to combine all the data from each device in one area, track weight and BF% as well as FTP and Watts per kilo is very cool.

Edit: and Neo 2T trainer (doesn’t connect with Connect App)

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Remote_Engine t1_je2dzoe wrote

I gotta get on your level! Daaaamn, that’s a sweet ecosystem of tools!

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jlusedude t1_je2ejxg wrote

I also have the Tacx Neo 2T.

I will say, Garmin has incredible service. I’ve bought the vector 3 and fenix used. I got both of them replaced under warranty through Garmin. Don’t be afraid to buy used, it’s saved me a ton of money.

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Remote_Engine t1_je2ex58 wrote

How do you like the Vector 3?

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jlusedude t1_je2lxia wrote

Great pedals. Very happy with the information regarding power phase. Really happy with them.

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UsecMyNuts t1_jdw9asn wrote

I feel like you’ve shot yourself in the foot in more ways than one by buying a $900 smartwatch without doing an atom of research into what it actually offers.

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givemewhiskeypls t1_jdx4lba wrote

I did plenty of research before I bought the Ultra. It wasn’t until I used it that I discovered that the way I use smart watches made it a poor choice for me. There are several design and user experience issues, the battery life as I’m experiencing is worse than reviews and official documentation made me expect, and the comfortability of the watch and it’s bands during certain activities that I do sucked. And unfortunately it took me about 4 weeks longer than the return window to hit critical mass of frustration. So now it sits in my watch case while I happily wear my Fenix 7.

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BumderFromDownUnder t1_jdwai9x wrote

If they can afford a watch that expensive they can buy subscription apps.

Please pay me now daddy Tim Cook, sir.

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UsecMyNuts t1_jdwez1p wrote

I mean $900 for a professional use watch isn’t really that expensive, but at the same time the words “watch subscription” just scream idiocy to me regardless of wealth.

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pppjurac t1_je65e1l wrote

Because you need sport watch (garmin,polar,amazfit) with some smart watch features not smartwatch with some sport features (apple).

I even ditched Fenix in favour of Instinct2 (light, rugged, long battery life, straight plain display, minimum of smart functionality) - so more lumberjack type of sports watch.

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