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mix3dnuts t1_iuov7mt wrote

Reply to comment by whales-are-assholes in Audio-Technica resurrects its Sound Burger portable turntable from the '80s by thebelsnickle1991

You can't compare an analog media to a digital one. CDs/DVDs aren't coming back.

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whales-are-assholes t1_iup23wx wrote

>CD/DVDs aren’t coming back.

Well, can’t come back when they’ve never left…

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mix3dnuts t1_iup8uto wrote

Define never left when Digital Sales literally blow physical copies out of the water...

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whales-are-assholes t1_iupoa7t wrote

Sales don’t equate the obsolescence of physical media. Don’t try and move the goalposts.

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mix3dnuts t1_iuponrj wrote

That's not goalpost moving....just because you can still buy a floppy disk doesn't mean it's not obsolete.

There's a difference between analog (Vinyl) and digital (CD/DVD).

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whales-are-assholes t1_iupptox wrote

You just used sales figures to prove your point - as if multiple technologies (physical and digital) can’t coexist.

And what happens if say, Apple pulls their licensing agreement? You lose everything you’ve “purchased,” because you don’t actually own the product you purchased. With physical media, you at least own and can access it in perpetuity.

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mix3dnuts t1_iupr6br wrote

Wrong, you don't, because you can still download that media and save it on another medium. You do own that "copy" that license gives you access to.

No where did I state multiple technologies can't exist, I explicitly said you can't compare analog vs digital exactly because they are different. Vinyl and other analog mediums will have their specific use case against digital.

When we're talking in the same medium space, sales and use does dictate in common language, obsolescence. We're not talking in absolutes here.

The same advantage you state with physical copies you can have with downloaded copies, because it's all digital, and that's my whole point. Downloaded media can be saved to physical copy for backups if need be. The world we live in now is built for downloaded/over the cloud media, we don't have physical digital readers on the majority of our technology for a reason.

Lastly whatever safety you get from physical medium gets demolished by saving that same -digital- copy on a flash nand drive. More robust & more accessible

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whales-are-assholes t1_iuprtq9 wrote

>Wrong.

You do know you’re just purchasing a license, right? A license that can be revoked at the behest of the service/point of sale.

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mix3dnuts t1_iupt2yy wrote

...what does that have to do with what I'm saying. Just like a physical copy, if the makers go out of business or decide to stop selling the product you won't have access to GETTING it anymore. Once you have access, make a copy. I don't need iTunes to playback my already downloaded media.

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Luce55 t1_iupdzfv wrote

There is one advantage of physical media over digital….you’ll have it even if the digital media giants go dark/close up shop. Even if the electric grid goes down, you can still hook up a wire to a solar panel (simplified example for sake of argument) and play your record player, or what have you. If you have the physical book, you can read it whether you have internet access or not, electricity or not.

There’s something to be said for that.

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bigsquirrel t1_iuprcxa wrote

I mean if you’re going the solar panel route an MP3 player takes a hell of a lot less energy than record player and can hold more music that you could ever reasonably carry in a physical format. It’s an odd comparison.

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Luce55 t1_iupy340 wrote

I mean…the original post is about a record player but….sure. MP3 player works as well, better, whatever.

Still, I personally can’t actually find my old MP3 player from a million years ago but I know exactly where my record player is, so based on ease of locating, record player wins lol.

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bigsquirrel t1_iupyhjr wrote

Cell phone that plays mp3s? Just pointing out that the advantage of using a solar panels to power a record player is a little odd. As is the tech giants thing. None of that is really a thing. I have copies of my digital music locally and literally have a tiny device on me at all times that can easily be powered with a very small solar panel to play mp3s for days.

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Luce55 t1_iupz5j5 wrote

I don’t disagree with you; I was merely pointing out that there is still an advantage to having physical media. If you have downloaded your music or whatnot, you own it, and so as long as you have power (unless books - you don’t need power for books) you will always have access to it. But, many people listen to music, watch movies, read books based on subscriptions/rentals. In which case, if, as I said, the services go kaput, you’re SOL on the media you enjoyed previously.

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willstr1 t1_iuq8ife wrote

Physical and digital are not mutually exclusive. Streaming definitely has its risks but CDs and DVDs are digital and physical and can work as long as you have a device that can play them (just like a record) they also have higher quality (from all quantitative measures) and are more robust physically

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thatminimumwagelife t1_iupnf0i wrote

I hope they don't come back. I'm saving so much money just buying dvds and blu rays for pennies. Don't go looking for them! That dinosaur tech is not for you, it's for me lol

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