DasGutYa t1_ja6tge9 wrote
Reply to comment by rhalf in Stupid question? Why were the 60s/70s the golden age of amps but the headphones were so terrible? by solid12345
That's.... pretty inaccurate to say the least.
Headphones were designed for vocals only in the beginning. Hence a lack of anything but midrange.
It was a quick process from late 60s to 70s in which companies saw the potential of Headphones to consumers and threw the everything at making a good sounding pair, we got electrostatics and orthodynamics because of this. Headphones would sound pretty good from this point onwards.
Now in regards to bass, we never needed big fat bloated bass until the loudness wars. It was perfectly fine to have a grado or senn with a bass response you heard rather than felt and it was deemed a better approach to messier, cheaper sets. The famed Sony mdr10 was always regarded as bloated in the bass and therefore an aquired taste, now its relatively little bass if you compare its freq response to modern headphones. Once mixing became garbage tier, throwing bass everywhere became the 'preferred' sound, since everything sounded awful on a more neutral set. It has nothing to do with nonsense like laptop speakers haha. Just consumers buying shitty mixes.
rhalf t1_ja70bad wrote
Good points, but the 70s headphones that I know are all midcentric, not just the monitors.
I owned K370 and heard some orthos. I also have Fostex T40RP right now on my head and it's the only vocal monitor. Unfortunately I know also some less expensive headphones including the common man's Sennheiser HD414 and boy were they awful. K370 only covered the full-ish range because it was a dual driver. After that model bass in AKG really went extinct. Stax had the same issue. They were all midcentric headphones even though they were not studio workhorses. The tuning back then was just mostly mids. They were close, some were better than an average headphone today, but the general trend is quite clear. Yamaha was probably an exception, although today the age might obscure that, because they lack extension. The Soviet Echo headphones that are easier to find where I live are plain midcentric like the rest of them.
solid12345 OP t1_ja7lsc1 wrote
On a side note I was actually surprised how well some of the Soviet orthos from the 80s I picked up sounded. For a country just coming into the fold of consumer goods they got off to a pretty good start, the only main weakness being some of them look like I’m wearing a tank driver’s HP!
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