Nah. That's not comparable to a decent DAC with a decent amp

Which you suggest me to buy? Im new to hifi audio

How much money do you want to spend? Do you have headphones to begin with?

Read my title. I own a ath r70x

It's probably fine

Thank you. You saved me a ton of money 😊

Sorry, I forgot about the title because of the big picture. I've never tried this pair but it looks decent so far. If you like it, I would leave it like it is. But you are defenately missing something. A good start point would be an iFi Zen DAC. But you can also go directly for something like the shiit stack.

Fiio k7? Any good? Or ifi zen dac v2?

The fiio looks like a decent solution, too. Haven't tried it yet.

>Running my Ath R70x with my MSI MPG X570 gaming pro wifi motherboard .any good?

If you're enjoying the sound of the headphones, not hearing noise or distortion, and able to reach your desired listening level, don't worry about purchasing dedicated equipment for the time being.

Thanks for your opinion

I mean, I don't have this motherboard, I'm just extrapolating from my experience with similar ones and the concrete numbers I can find for the audio chipset they use, but I would try it before spending more money. The main problem with onboard sound tends to be noise/interference but the ATs aren't too sensitive so I doubt that will be an audible issue.

Then there's the question of power/headroom. The ALC1220 chip (some guy measured it to put out 1.3Vrms into 600ohms, which we can estimate will get the R70Xs to about 105dB peak SPL) will definitely get it loud enough for *me*, but maybe not for you, since I don't know how loud you listen and what you listen to.

If there is no background "hiss" you are fine. Most people started to buy dacs because of that hissing sound. Nowadays you can even get an apple dongle and solve it, even though it won't be enough to power R70xs.

I was running Hifiman Deva Pro on my PC with a Soundblaster SC with a discrete headphone amp and it sounded ok. I don't have a huge budget so I bought a JDS Labs Atom DAC+ and Atom Amp+ and it sounds significantly better.

I have a razer basestation dac will it suffice?

FiiO K7 is great, it would be my pick

I'd still buy a basic dac/amp combo for extra peace of mind, knowing that my pc will never mess with the sound I'll be hearing. Also the physical volume knob is a nice addition

I dont want to waste money for a physical knob lol

I don't use mine too. It's just what most people would say about the benefit of separate dac/amp when getting confronted by the apple dongle connoisseur

When my motherboard has all features that a dedicated dac/amp do? Why should i spend more? I dont want extra wires and stuffs hanging around. I want it to be minimalistic

I'd go for the K7, though I've heard it has a weird volume knob.

K7 for sure I’ve had the ifi zen dac v2 - great amp sometimes needs tweaking via driver updates to fix it

Try out the DTS:X Sound Unbound on the windows store if you're gaming. They have an R70x preset and it's the best virtual surround sound there is.

Also, what's up with everyone getting the R70x lately?

fine sure. If you get popping, turn down the app volume and keep the system volume the same.

Is it better than than dolby atmos?

Absolutely.

I use both atmos and dtsx on both windows and xbox and I agree, it's much better.

Volume knob is awesome quite frankly.

You should absolutely not spend more. Enjoy your headphones.

Yeah? People seem to complain that it doesn't do much until it's into the second half of a full turn, haven't tried the thing myself so can't vouch for the accuracy of that.

Although imo if it's fully linear without 'stepping' if that makes sense, and isn't scratchy, then it's a decent volume knob.

Yhh thankss 😁

That's definitely not the case with mine. It's fully linear, yeah.

We don't do that here.

I feel I should say why it's awesome, and I had the same misgivings as you have really, having seen reviews. You set it to 40% or 50% or something and you go there pretty much visually rather than by having a step be +5% or something. It just feels better to me, I know where my headphones should be and I turn on the amp and set them to the desired volume much faster than than when I had a traditional amp (I owned the dx3+ and I very much disliked the clicking noise).

It's definitely something to research before buying, I wasn't sure I'd like it but I'm absolutely sold on it now.

I didn't mean fully linear in relation to the complaints I had seen, I meant it as in you turn the dial and it rotates smoothly without doing like, little snaps if that makes sense. What I heard about the complains I could live with, but I couldn't live without a smooth, freely rotating dial.

But I've read your other comment and I understand and agree with what you said.

I used to drive my HD600 straight from a B550 mobo without any problems. I’d imagine this is even better than the one I have.

Maybe get one in the future, but you definitely don’t need one. If you do get any improvements in the sound from an amp there will not be a world of difference. (and if you don’t hear an improvement you can just return it)

I'd recommend the Topping DX3 Pro+, it's a tad cheaper than the FiiO K7

A lot of people say that the R70x sounds better with a dedicated amp, but realistically you don't need to spend that money if the headphones are loud enough and don't have pick up any noise from your motherboard. This is a bigger issue with cheaper/older components, I have an Asus x570 board and the dac is shielded from noise quite well (I still use a headphone amp but that's just because I enjoy it, not because it's a requirement).

Thank you