Perfect sound stage. It has beaten the 1990 which I dislike to the fullest in Half Life 2 Episode 2 where Alyx and Vautigont talk about the Combine invasion together with Gordon... The placement is perfect. Mids are great and treble laid back compared to the M1ST or probably the 600 which I did not receive yesterday thanks Hermest packet service (I have it listed as send to gas station but they went to my home). Bass might be a no-go or a win because it has nothing to do with consumer headphones, it is literally a subwoofer but quieter with so many shapes and levels of darkness. Also super unconfortable headband but pads got bigger by far compared to my now sold NDH20 which sound fake. It needs an amp and shows flaws in music like positioning of everything.