Submitted by Radical_GRD t3_xxkbtz in history
Civil-Secretary-2356 t1_ire02h3 wrote
Reply to comment by Scitianwarrior in How did Stanley Baldwin survive as Tory Party leader for so long? by Radical_GRD
I can't speak on the subject with any great authority. However, your two sources as questionable. Im an admirer of Churchill, but he is questionable as a historian of the age. There are also criticisms of Keynes, that he was unduly influenced by, I think, one or two of his close sources on the continent. Again, I'm not saying who is right and wrong here, just that it is an ongoing debate.
Scitianwarrior t1_irefsgq wrote
Equal, I am not a professor or academics in nothing, I am just someone who wants to know the origin of things and I do not pretend any revealed truth if perhaps there is such a thing! If your opinion about Churchill and on Keynnes is a majority in the current UK that amazes me and a lot. Churchill was an amateur historian, it is possible that he had misconceptions and as a minister during the war, he certainly made some mistakes although in the essentials he was wrong. He had the premonition that Stalin was not identical to Hitler. Stalin was a mass killer psychopath with which he could talk and even to negotiating, Hitler was the beast on the dark side with whom he could not even speak! That distinction always caught my attention and at some point he said to someone nearby: "I am an anti-communist since 1917 and after the war is finished, I will continue to be an anti-communist but now I say alive the USSR!" And he was not desmaminated in his intuition that with Stalin and with the USSR could be talked out and agreed. With Keynnes perhaps it was not influence but the shock he received when reading the work of Marx and Engels not in the sense of admiration but quite the opposite he just as Churchill sniffed that something bad existed in the classical liberal economy from Adam Smith until the great recession of 1929 and that it was necessary to investigate and raise a new economic theory. And he did it.
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