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UltraShadowArbiter t1_ivt84dc wrote
And also because of that one truck driver who drove a semi over one of them.
HoneyInBlackCoffee t1_ivti3hx wrote
That's a new one for me
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HoneyInBlackCoffee t1_ivvl09l wrote
Wow, I don't even have words
Schnort t1_ivtjq5j wrote
Or the time that greenpeace went and protested climate change
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AsleepNinja t1_ivtsoq9 wrote
And that time Greenpeace vandalised them
Chubbybellylover888 t1_ivul3ae wrote
Wait, what?? Why??!
I admire the passion. Its a pity we let the idiots lead.
Tim Foilhat, PI says there's a conspiracy afoot.
AndImBill t1_ivtywyu wrote
And they asked me to support them outside of sprouts soon after…
bqzs t1_ivu2nss wrote
You can still see them, just from the air. Better from that distance anyway.
captain_backfire_ t1_ivuk1n2 wrote
Yeah you have to get on this teeny tiny plane and fly over it. I’ve been to Nazca twice.
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temalyen t1_ivvu20i wrote
Or maybe it's so no one can see the aliens landing!
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novapbs OP t1_ivpza9e wrote
Spread out over 200 square miles of the Peruvian desert lies a treasure of the ancient world: thousands of enormous “geoglyphs,” huge shapes made from rocks and earth. Most of these are lines—some continuing for miles—while others are geometric shapes and recognizable figures: a spider, a hummingbird, a cactus, a llama, a flower. Known as the Nazca lines, the geoglyphs have survived for many centuries thanks to the dry climate of Peru’s southern coast—long outlasting the civilization that made them.
Faking_Life t1_ivrepmf wrote
This may sound stupid, but what was the motivation for making these images that can only be seen from above? Are there mountains or something in the area that could serve as a viewpoint?
trowawaid t1_ivrxl76 wrote
Some of them were intended for the gods. (They were made on flat ground, so they could really only be seen in any way up high).
Others were on sides of mountains, etc, so they could be seen by people at certain places. They were potentially waypoints or territorial markers (though we can't really know for sure).
Sketchy-Fish t1_ivtknmd wrote
Haven’t some of them got a water connection as well? As understood it some of them have openings so can access water in this part of the world,like they made man made waterways through the desert areas from the mountains.. very cool water management..
trowawaid t1_ivtmo1z wrote
Oh that would be interesting! (I was only repeating what I read in the article, but that's a really cool notion too).
Sketchy-Fish t1_ivtmtas wrote
As was I mate hahaha but isn’t that what learning is about?? Just picking what to learn isn’t it?
cartoptauntaun t1_ivtzvy1 wrote
I’ve only read about what you’re describing in articles about the Middle East. Maybe similar things exist in SA but I don’t recall reading anything about Nazca lines and man made aquifers
Sketchy-Fish t1_ivu2p5c wrote
Sorry it’s the worst paper ever!
hazpat t1_ivukhdu wrote
This is not the same thing as the lines and geoglyphs
Sketchy-Fish t1_ivuny7g wrote
I didn’t say it was the same
Sketchy-Fish t1_ivu2bfn wrote
Yer they are spiral shaped and run along in very long lines! Maybe there not right by the pictures on desert floor but they def have them.. il see if can link to what I mean
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hazpat t1_ivukq52 wrote
Those are seperate features from the lines. Like saying the pyramids were used for irrigation because irrigation channels were found in the same area.
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rofltide t1_ivub02n wrote
Well that's interesting. With planes, we humans can see the ones on flat now. Wonder how long it would take us to convince them we're not gods if we met today...
patientguitar t1_ivrzyfl wrote
As for Nazca (as opposed to the Paracas geoglyphs), I buy into the archaeo-astronomy theory: like the Giza necropolis, the figures are mapping constellations (which was the best form of evening entertainment for centuries).
lordkuren t1_ivsl8y3 wrote
I've been there a bit more than 10 years ago. You can drive out between them by car and while you recognize it is something man-made, for most you can't recognize what it is though. There are hills near by - with some ancient irrigation systems that even after a few hundred years are still used today! - from which you can see and recognize some that are nearby. They can clearly seen from the air - took a round flight over them - and it is super-impressive how big and clearly visible they are. The guides, pilots and so on all had their own theories. The most common ones I heard was religious - messages to their gods - or that they were used to mirror what they saw in the stars, like their interpretations of star constellations. Maybe it's both at the same time.
frogontrombone t1_ivsziia wrote
According to archaeologist Ken Feder, there are sites nearby that have artifacts suggestive of these being part of some meditative practice. Ken points out that for the vast majority of human history, religion and hobby and art were all the same thing, so these very likely have a religious meaning.
As far as seeing them, I dont recall if he mentioned there being a viewpoint or not, but he did make the point that.it didn't matter since the purpose of these was more spiritual than not. He gives many examples of geoglyphs that have no viewpoint, such as Serpent Mound in Ohio.
Source is Archeological Fantasies podcast, episode 25
Faking_Life t1_ivt3yaw wrote
Amazing, thanks for the source, too!
frogontrombone t1_ivt527p wrote
You bet. I highly recommend the podcast. It debunks pseudo archeological claims by going over what we DO know and makes the point that real life is much more interesting than the one dimensional and racist "aliens", "Atlantis", or "preColumbian exchange" claims
Sketchy-Fish t1_ivtmpi5 wrote
I thought that serpent mound was like a star aligned site and was used for marking of time passing, like the seasons, guess like you’ve all said I’m sure it HAD a very good reason for the people that built it..
frogontrombone t1_ivtz945 wrote
A lot of these structures have alignments, but again, astronomy, religion, and art were all basically the same category for most of human history.
Sketchy-Fish t1_ivu323j wrote
Yep def seems like that all over the world..
ufrag t1_ivs9mie wrote
I like the theory of it working as a memory device, sort of as a pilgrimage that you walk on to remember certain information.
If I recall then, when you start walking it, you just start and you never have to make any turns or cross other people, so there is just a set beginning you start on and everyone just follows the line.
herbivorousanimist t1_ivsx3px wrote
The Australian Aboriginals did just that. Entire dream time stories would be told by walking through the landscape, some stories taking days and weeks to tell as they walked through the territories of their tribe, with the country and landmarks marking the points of the stories.
Initial_E t1_ivt2t5m wrote
Regardless of what they intended it to be, it has become a time capsule, an enduring message from dead civilizations to the future. “We existed. This is proof!”
YouMeAndPooneil t1_ivtv523 wrote
Motivation for human actions in prehistory is always speculative. That is it can never be shown to actually reflect the actual motivations of the actors because they didn't leave written accounts of their motivations. The best theory is that the lines on the desert floor were meant for observation by gods that lived in the sky.
The article states about the hillside figures,
>If the Nazca Lines were made by humans for the gods, these figures were made by humans for humans.
This quote alone is not particular helpful journalism because it just reflects a bare illogical opinion. The editor should have sent this back to the reporter for more context.
brendan250 t1_ivsnet4 wrote
There is a theory that they were created by people who were searching for water. That would explain why the lines never intersect
Islanderbull t1_ivt0dwp wrote
Look up Jon Levi on YT
L7Death t1_ivtua2n wrote
Building towers of wood would let you get a pretty decent view. Just a few stories up and you can easily overlook a city.
Trashman82 t1_ivulprl wrote
According to ancient astronaut theorists....aliens.
No_Rest_2371 t1_ivrt9gd wrote
I enjoyed this documentary. Thanks, PBS!
PM_ME_YUR_BIG_SECRET t1_ivtq2dy wrote
I just watched it this weekend!
santathe1 t1_ivsu1jp wrote
How did they make those lines so straight?
its8up t1_ivr27cw wrote
Old photo or did they just do a good job of repairing the Greenpeace vandalism?
ChronoFish t1_ivt9a7i wrote
When I was something between 4-7 I would watch "in search of" and was absolutely enthralled with the Nazca Lines.
On a business trip in my late 20's I had the privilege of going to Peru. So I planned a week of vacation time (invited my girlfriend to meet me after my work activities where done) and went to Machu Picchu and on the way made sure to stop in Nazca.
I don't normally charge and block and bully, that's not at all my style (usually quite the opposite). But there was nothing that was going to hold me back from seeing the lines from the air. I charted a small plane and ensured I got the front seat.
I was in my selfish glory and thrilled to have lived a childhood dream. I'm sure I was a total douchebag to the family and my girlfriend (now wife) who were sharing the plane with me....
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YouMeAndPooneil t1_ivtvz2b wrote
I had the privilege of flying over these last July. The lines are immensely cool. They are one of those wonders that I had heard about since childhood so seeing them in person was, well, wonderful.
My exposure was from an older sibling reading Erich von Däniken's silly books and seeing some TV shows inspired by the books. But the lines captured my imagination. And the mystery still does.
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Stellar-Polaris t1_ivtmsdd wrote
I watched that it was really interesting.
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L7Death t1_ivttp5b wrote
I remember learning about these from Illusion Of Gaia for the SNES.
eburkhead t1_ivtufr7 wrote
I still play that game to this day. A really underappreciated classic. The Nazca level has always been my favorite. Angkor Wat on the other hand...
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bqzs t1_ivu24y0 wrote
Having seen them, they are spectacular and interesting, but there's a reason they tell you not to eat before your flight. Still recommend it though.
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dotnetdotcom t1_ivucu8y wrote
Also visible in google earth or google maps.
l397flake t1_ivun5ph wrote
I went to Peru to see the main archaeological stuff. We took a plane from the local tourist service. Pilot, copilot and 6 passengers. The pilot flew circles in both directions so everyone in the plane could see the lines . Some got a little queezy. All in all it was a great experience
Sandpaper_Pants t1_ivutarg wrote
I was in Nazca a few months ago on vacation. They get 2 cm of rain per year. The region looks like a baren planet, like I've never seen before.
HoneyInBlackCoffee t1_ivssays wrote
Iirc people are banned from going to them now, because they were getting destroyed by motorcycles