Submitted by Horror_in_Vacuum t3_zsqlpc in history
Hyphenated_Gorilla t1_j1dtdm2 wrote
Reply to comment by KGBFriedChicken02 in How did the Romans manage to arm most of their soldiers with swords? by Horror_in_Vacuum
Excellent and accurate description!
vurjin_oce t1_j1fy1t6 wrote
There is an old Roman proverb that was said when Greeks were making fun of the length of their swords. Romans replied it only needed to be long enough to reach your heart.
Hyphenated_Gorilla t1_j1gptx7 wrote
I believe that was in Vegetius “Epitome of Military science”
Good book on the Roman strategy if you’ve not read it
Intranetusa t1_j1k9xlh wrote
Note that the claim that Roman formations are too tight to use spears/axes/longer weapons/etc is a myth. A typical or common Roman infantry formation during the Republic or early Empire is described as having around 3 feet of space between each man. This is a rather spacious formation that gives each soldier plenty of room to deploy spear or sword, and is a more spacious formation than the classical Greek phalanxes that used heavy thrusting spears.
3 feet of space is also comparable to or greater than the spacing used by many pike formations, as many Rennisance European pikemen also had around 3 feet of space between each man and sometimes had as little as only 1.5 feet of space. Even the more loose formation of Ming Dynasty pikemen was still only 3.5 feet between each man according to the Ming military blog.
Thus, contrary to some belief that Roman combat was too cramped for spears, there would be no issue in using a long heavy thrusting spear or a 7 foot pila/throwing spear in melee combat when there was 3 feet of space between each man.
Of course, there could have been and probably were cases when the Romans switched to a much tighter formation where a shorter sword was more manuverable and easier to use than a long thrusting spears or pila in melee.
Hyphenated_Gorilla t1_j1kbf0v wrote
Javalyn was also very common as a initial weapon.
Again, another good post.
Looking forward to the brawl
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