D-D-D-D-D-D-Derek t1_jac7ewb wrote
Sounds like they will get sued in Europe tbh.
SelectTotal6609 t1_jacfwbl wrote
then they will have to sue chinese Android OEMs, too
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Louis-grabbing-pills t1_jadz9p0 wrote
Or Apple has the money. Nobody wants to sue a nonprofitable Android OEM.
freesek t1_jaf2n53 wrote
nonprofitable? what planet are you living on?
MTPWAZ t1_jaceo9t wrote
Sure for what? They just mandated the plug. Not the features.
Expert_Gate8947 t1_jacm57z wrote
> Device-side connector: the included devices would have to be equipped with a USB-C receptacle on the device side (as described in the European standard EN IEC 62680-1-3:2021) and, in cases of charging power lower than 60 watts, be rechargeable with cables that complied with the same standard (new annex Ia, part I). > > Charging communication protocol: the devices should incorporate the USB Power Delivery (USB PD) standard (as described in the European standard EN IEC 62680-1- 2:2021) and ensure that any additional charging protocols allow for full USB PD functionality (new annex Ia, part I).
From the February 2023 EU legislation document.
cmdtacos t1_jadltpc wrote
What about what they're doing violates either of these? If non-MFI cables still allow USB PD compliant charging under 60 watts wouldn't Apple still be in compliance?
AcerbicCapsule t1_jadoiw9 wrote
You're asking what would apple violate if they adhere to the guidelines in a comment for a post that is suggesting apple will not adhere to the guidelines?
cmdtacos t1_jadp2fa wrote
People are assuming Apple won't adhere to the guidelines. I'm just pointing out that from what I can tell Apple can at the same time restrict higher charging speeds to MFI cables AND obey the European rules for USB-C connectors on devices.
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unread1701 t1_jacm7k8 wrote
I might be wrong but I think they mandated the USB-C standard.
-FoxBJK- t1_jacnya7 wrote
> the USB-C standard
See here's the problem with USB right now. This could mean any one of like 5 different USB standards.
broke_fit_dad t1_jaez9mz wrote
USB C wiring isn’t standardized as well as it should be. I have 3 devices on USB C one has a special cable and charger and doesn’t charge or connect on any other set up. The other 2 1 cable works with both chargers for one and one charger works with both cables for the other.
I would wager Apple will use the “ for future expansion” wires in USB C as identifiers
MTPWAZ t1_jad72nv wrote
Nah. Just the port and they it works with existing usb c chargers.
As for the standard that could be any number of things that no one adds to phones. So I doubt they would even try that.
So as long as the new port meets the basic requirements Apple is done. EU would need to update their meaning if they don’t like it.
unread1701 t1_jadf0cg wrote
This is all so weird as Apple is a member of the USB consortium too. I do love their implementation of USB-C on the MacBook Air though. So I hope they do the same for the iPhones.
Super-Perfect-Cell t1_jae6cwp wrote
the USB-C standard is a connector and port shape. absolutely nothing else
Notyourfathersgeek t1_jaefdm5 wrote
USB-C is nothing but a port
_PM_ME_YOUR_SYNTAX_ t1_jaclo9k wrote
Not sued, but android mfr will definitely troll them in adds
owtlowd t1_jacmxf4 wrote
And then turn around and copy them probably.
Substantial_Boiler t1_jaco21a wrote
Many Androids already use proprietary USB C cables for fast charging
Faleymark29 t1_jacazbd wrote
Yeah probably but it’s kind of funny that they are giving the middle finger to EU because their the ones who wanted this I think.
gigitygoat t1_jacrcvm wrote
Everyone wants this. Why do we need a half dozen cables if they could all be the same? It’s wasteful and bad for the consumer.
Imagine if every car manufacturer used a different fuel nozzle receiver. That would severely limit when and where you could refuel.
Expert_Gate8947 t1_jacu5uk wrote
Isn't that what Tesla is doing with their charging port?
gigitygoat t1_jad4fc6 wrote
It is. The government needs to step in a regulated and standardize a connector.
iBlag t1_jadjkdv wrote
The US government has cajoled the EV industry to use one standard, and Tesla sells adapters, including an upcoming one for fast DC charging, and is opening their supercharging network for competing EV manufacturers to use.
So they’re already working on it.
IronManConnoisseur t1_jacy20q wrote
Electric vehicles are a whole other ballgame than the mass-use of smartphones and gas-powered vehicles.
gigitygoat t1_jad4b78 wrote
It's the same ballgame. The government needs to step in and regulate.
the_jak t1_jadgyrr wrote
I have 2. USB c and lighting. Even my vape pen is usb c. How do you have so many cords?
gigitygoat t1_jadhi6p wrote
lightning, micro USB, mini USB, USB A, USB B, USB C.
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