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GlitchParrot t1_iu82oe1 wrote

Reply to comment by CanadianZinger in Android features you miss? by throwawaypenguinnn

> USB F*CKING C, charging on iPhone just sucks.

Charging speed has nothing to do with the port, the iPhone’s charging circuitry just cannot handle more than ~20W.

> Multimedia volume controls. Like let me keep the ringer volume up while keeping notifications and media on mute.

While you can’t keep ringer and notifications separate (which you also cannot do on Android iirc), media volume and ringer volume are two different volumes in iOS. Settings → Sounds → Ringtone and Alert Volume is a different slider than the one in Control Centre.

> Universal back swipe, users who have never used an android don’t often understand the importance of this. Navigation is so much simpler and reliable on android because of this.

iOS pursues a very different model with this, that can’t easily be changed into Android’s. Android’s design started out with a physical button for “back”. The back gesture was an afterthought in Android 10, and simply displays an arrow on the side of the screen when used.

iOS’s design is all about fluid animations creating intuitive motions. If a page opens by sliding from the right to the left, you close it by swiping it back where it came from, from the left to the right (a page in an app). If it opens from the bottom up, you swipe it down to close it (modals). This needs to be under the control of the app so that it can actually physically animate the page when you swipe it. This is the model that Apple recommends any developer to implement in their apps. If an app does not adhere to these gestures, it’s badly designed.

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Odder1 t1_iuerxnw wrote

Tell me, why can the iPhone's charging circuitry (the proprietary lightning tristar) unable to handle more than 20w?

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GlitchParrot t1_iuf062m wrote

Because it is designed that way.

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Odder1 t1_iuf0az6 wrote

So, if they design it with USB-C instead...

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GlitchParrot t1_iuf0jw1 wrote

They would need to specifically design it to handle more than 20W to handle more than 20W. The port has nothing to do with it, it all depends on what voltages and current the charging circuitry microchips can send to the battery.

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Odder1 t1_iuf0rmm wrote

To use usb-c like the ipads, they would need to use the same chips, which can handle more than 20w, no? They're just going to create a new, worse one for more money?

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GlitchParrot t1_iuf1acw wrote

I’m no expert in what exact chips they use inside the iPads, but the charging circuitry of iPads is designed for much larger batteries and therefore would probably need much more unnecessary space, so they would probably need to design a new one.

If they could just use the same chips as iPads, they could’ve done this with Lightning too, given that the 2017 iPad Pro could already charge at 30W.

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Odder1 t1_iuf1wg8 wrote

latest iphones actually do 30w too (13 pro max and 14 pro max)

No, the charging circuitry for USB-C isn't designed specifically for higher capacity batteries, that doesn't make any sense. My android phone can charge with usb-c at 65w, more than any iPad. Battery management is typically done with a battery bms attached to your iPhone's battery cell(s). There is no excuse.

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GlitchParrot t1_iuf26zi wrote

You still emphasise my own point: It has nothing to do with USB-C. They could do 65W charging over Lightning. And they could do 20W charging via USB-C if they don’t change the charging circuitry from the current one. That’s all I’m saying.

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Odder1 t1_iuf2fwe wrote

65w charging over lightning, probably not tbh... may need a cable revision for that one

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