not for nothing but it is true....Worcester is the support city for Boston it has the room to have the infrastructure to support the huge urban sprawl that is greater Boston. Sure it is the 2nd largest city in New England and has it's own identity

I say 190 and and anything east of that is “Greater Boston”

Boston is part of Greater Worcester

It’s part of Greatest Boston

I respect Worcester and I as a kid saw the old Worcester Counts at the old Worcester centrum.But it's better the the region to make Boston as big a possible.Boston is a tiny 49 Sq. miles,New York is 250 Sq miles and LA is 450 Sq miles.If Boston was 300 square miles it would for sure in the top 5 biggest cities in the US.

No, we should keep Boston in its 49 square miles

Yes, worcester should be the capitol. Easier to get to if you are coming from the western part of the state, less crowded, less crime. Boston is easier if you are coming from the middle of the ocean where nobody lives

I'm not saying make metro Boston ,Boston proper,only saying a bigger metro Boston is better for the region.

It’s part of the Boston Combined Statistical Area as defined by the government so yea, it’s part of Greater Boston

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Fix it. Bostonians must remain within the 128 holding cell.

Surprise surprise, that's where everybody was coming from at the time they chose the capital. At least it's not Taunton

Only if it comes with requisite public transit

Is PT that bad a bit west of Boston,we have good buses in North Adams with even service to Pittsfield a few times a day

1630 is when Boston became the capital of the Massachusetts bay colony so that definitely checks out

You know that Worcester is the 2nd largest city in New England?

North South axis was more important back in the day, as nobody much lived in the hinterlands. Until 1820 northern Mass was Portland and Bangor. Access by sea was the prime concern. Nobody lived there but many traveled there.

We're talking about what's already an area covering over 4 million people. If you want to grow that, with Boston serving as a hub, imagine the traffic with 6 or 8 million people all trying to drive into then out of the city at the same time every day. Let alone getting to the other places without a car

I was talking statistics not actually growing the population in real people.Making Boston look bigger on paper is good for New England I was not speaking actual population growth.

Cambridge is number 9. Population isn't the focal point, distance is.

Is Providence also part of greater Boston?

Yeah this is the dumbest continual argument on the Massachusetts/Boston subreddits. Worcester, Manchester NH and Providence are all part of the Boston combined statistical area. Their development trends, rents, population growth are all closely tied to development in Boston.

Look up the same statistics for Holyoke and North Adams if you want to see what cities in Massachusetts that are truly outside of the orbit of Boston look like.

It’s a joke

Then, Worcester becomes crowded.

Boston wouldn’t be Boston if it was not tiny, overcrowded, hard to navigate, expensive and parochial. Making the MSA larger would take away its charm and uniqueness.

Imagine 8 million people taking the Green Line everyday.

I was talking statistics not actual population change

Yes

Oh my b then

It already feels that way most of the time. I used to work nights and trying to get home at the same time all the kids were going to school in the morning was my own little personal hell

I don't understand??

No way. Springfield is more convenient, literally the crossroads.

My bad, my mistake, I was trying to have a conversation that wasn't in line with the conversation you were having

Ok ,no probs man😀

I would say yes. It's on the commuter rail and a reasonable number of people commute from RI to Boston. Same thing for much of southern New Hampshire.

Both Worcester and Providence are part of the Boston-Worcester-Providence Combined Statistical Area.

So , Is Springfield part of the Greater Hartford Metro? There’s a commuter rail line between the two cities , plus they are only 22 miles apart.

Less Crime? Pretty sure Worcester has a higher crime rate than Boston despite a way smaller population

We’re the “Bay State” - not the “Berkshire State” for a reason.

Maybe you want a different…wait, no, this is the right capitol.