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Submitted by [deleted] t3_10vjzy8 in massachusetts
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Exactly.
You don't seem to be very familiar with the communities of Lincoln, Bedford, Lexington, and Concord. Those are exactly the rich people who would benefit, with the Netjets subscriptions, etc.
Hanscom has a poor record on water because of the Air Force, not the private air side.
I say expand because Logan sucks. What about the environmental impact of all the traffic stopped on 93 trying to get in there?
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It would be incredibly convenient if there was some commercial traffic out of Hanscom
I don’t get how more don’t get this. A few flights a day to major business hubs on nice regional aircraft is a win for all
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Which stuff like this will make it incredibly attractive to more operators.
These Concord NIMBY’s have been fighting for years but the feds keep siding with the airport. Shuttle America in the late 90’s early 2000’s was awesome. I flew out of Hanscom with my family on vacation back then…
I’m torn. It would be awesome to be able to avoid Logan but we live under one of the approaches to Hanscom. We get a lot traffic descending through 3000 feet, which I kind of enjoy actually, but big jets, maybe not. It would certainly change the character of neighborhoods near the ends of the runways. Otoh, the base used to be so active that neighbors had to clean soot off their houses. That was when most military traffic was prop driven.
Fair point on the increased traffic. Of note I saw a Delta livery at Hanscom on Sunday, thought it was out of place, but I suspect it was for maintenance or something.
All the sports teams fly in and out of Hanscom on Chartered Commercial Aircraft. Not uncommon to see Delta, JetBlue Jets.
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You don't need hangers at all for commercial jets but you do need the runway upgrades. It would be great to have these in so more flights could happen
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Unnecessary for who? Someone obviously thinks they’re necessary
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If it's private jets, they're small and won't amount to much traffic. So what's the issue?
Of course, you should actually read the OP
There’s a waiting list of over 1200 planes waiting for hangar space..
This is great! There isn’t much over there in that part of the airport, and they definitely need more hangars.
Not In My Back Yard!
Massachusetts, the proud, the brave, the NIMBY.
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>increase potential for water contamination (for which Hanscom has a poor record)
So /u/Eniminimynimoe, why don't you explain how this is going to happen?
>and pose an extra burden on environmental justice communities.
Because they do so much now other than write posts like this and block traffic?
>The benefits go mainly to private companies and wealthy individuals, not the surrounding communities of Lincoln, Bedford, Lexington, and Concord.
Uh, aren't those where the wealthy individuals live? And spend their money? Any pay taxes? Looks like it has great benefits.
The heritage of New England systemic racial and class injustice dictates that communities near Logan Airport must be the ones who suffer from the environmental impacts of air traffic because the poor minorities who are more likely to live there are less likely to use air transport than the residents of Lincoln, Bedford, Lexington, and Concord.
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Everyone who lives in those towns moved in knowing there's an Air Force base there. They used to have regular air shows and I toured a C17 there about 20 years ago.
If you moved in and didn't do your research, don't expect sympathy.
Thank you, there’s been a “landing strip” there since the 30’s and a base since the 40’s…
Move Logan to Hanscom, extend the Red Line there, revert the current Logan to half housing and half salt-marsh, and convert the Ted Williams/Silver Line to rail.
Actually could be done. Hanscom had its own rail spur off the Bedford>Boston train line that’s now the minuteman bikeway.
You forgot to mention starting construction on the Boston-Provincetown tunnel.
>environmental justice communities.
What, pray tell, is an "environmental justice community."
Rich people who only want woods anywhere near their already built houses.
Oh, it's the new socially acceptable codeword for NIMBY! TIL...
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Wow I had no idea HAFB and Hanscom air field were different. I always assumed that whole area serviced military planes. Interesting. Well hopefully this doesn’t get built.
What about Devans is already polluted
This is bad news!
How is it bad news to develop a little more travel infrastructure? Do you enjoy going to logan sitting in traffic or driving around Chelsea because the tunnel is closed?
Breathing exhaust fumes while stuck in traffic in the tunnel is actually healthy, dontchaknow?
Where do I sign up to resist
Resist all change... boomer
When I moved to Concord aviation movements out of Hanscom were few and far between and mostly small private prop planes. Now I have planes over my house at about 1500 feet at alll times of the day a couple of weeks ago a Delta charter 757 took off at 2:45 AM. that’s the issue
I lived in Lexington for 20 years. There were small private jets and the occasional airliner coming in and out regularly. Traffic actually decreased over the time I lived there.
Exactly what we need. Private jet traffic and pollution in a national heritage site.
I didn't read anything in the ENF that indicated more jet traffic. Can you point it out to me?
How do you think 27 hangars-worth of planes will get there? Tow trucks on route 2?
You haven't read the ENF, have you?
You’re not very good at chess, are you?
So I was right. Thanks.
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Absolutely. I just remember my parents house was near a small airport with a ton of private jet traffic in a different state. It was absolute trash living in a place like that.
Did they know the airport was there before they bought the place?
Airport was there, but barely used. About 10 years ago they enlarged it, built hangars, and allowed it to be used by private jet operators.
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It’s not really open land. Its a superfund site and former Air Force trailer park that would be used. Not like they’re tearing down a forest to build this.