Submitted by Avocadoexpresss t3_125ww38 in massachusetts
Initial_Dimension541 t1_je6qzhc wrote
End of life care costs are what keep our amazing health care system afloat. This has nothing to do with religion but rather corporate healthcare greed
E5D5 t1_je7ee8s wrote
That’s not completely true. a lot of people including many healthcare professions are still just strictly against this
deeply_concerned t1_je7o9bm wrote
Because they’re religious.
George_GeorgeGlass t1_je8c49z wrote
Nope. Atheist nurse here. You couldn’t be more off base with this take
We should allow end of life care. But the reason we don’t isn’t because healthcare providers are religious. Shaking my head
burn_your_bible t1_je8gzo3 wrote
On a large scale it is
MysteryMedic t1_je7pwkr wrote
Nope. For me (paramedic) the procedure was to be handled poorly. There was (and I’m trying to remember, because it’s been a while) no accommodations made for the people who are forced to manage the after. There was no connection to existing end-of-life orders. So when we responded to a residence for a well-being check there was nothing that prevented us from doing our jobs. I 100% support your right to die, but I’m not letting you die peacefully and without intervention just so your pissed off relatives can make my career a living hell.
deeply_concerned t1_je7q4zf wrote
Who cares about the after. If someone is suffering they should have the choice to end it.
MysteryMedic t1_je7ra6u wrote
Ummm. We do. Because we have a legal duty to act. And without protections in the case of death (Massachusetts uses the MOLST form) we now either violate your desire to in peace and dignity or we risk our jobs. So, yeah. Tie up some important lose ends and most of us will be VERY behind this.
George_GeorgeGlass t1_je8cj6t wrote
This
George_GeorgeGlass t1_je8c8lr wrote
There’s no money in end of life care. It’s comical that you think so. That’s not where money comes from in our healthcare system. That’s actually peanuts. We lose money on that.
cowboy_dude_6 t1_je9iu4l wrote
It’s not hospice care people are talking about. It’s all the things people try before hospice care. Expensive cancer treatment regimens, patented prescription drugs (especially what seems to be trending now — wildly expensive antibody-based therapies), extended hospital stays, surgeries, dialysis, specialist consults, etc. It would probably be a better world if it was more acceptable to simply choose hospice rather than fighting until the very end.
For those who have never read it, I highly recommend Ken Murray’s 2011 essay “How Doctors Die”. Those who have experience with how the hospital system approaches care for the dying overwhelmingly reject it and choose hospice, or choose to die at home.
George_GeorgeGlass t1_jed0x2b wrote
I’m a nurse. I’ve don’t hospice care. But thank you for mansplaining the difference between hospice care of end of life/ death with dignity. Boy, am I glad you explained my job to me. Now I get it. Thanks to you
pelican_chorus t1_je9q8ag wrote
> Ten percent of all healthcare spending in the U.S. goes toward end-of-life care
That means after 75 years or whatever of life, you still spend a whopping 10% of your total healthcare costs in those last few months of life.
That's huge.
Lav4486 t1_je997d2 wrote
It's true. Lots of hospitals have given up their hospice programs.
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