itallendsintears t1_j2905he wrote on December 30, 2022 at 2:55 PM

Damn. THIRD offense? That’s like five piece easy. Hey whist is fun hope he likes cards

Effective_Golf_3311 t1_j2a5zye wrote on December 30, 2022 at 7:27 PM

Most of the shooters in our city are on their 3rd or 4th offense. Some of them are wearing ankle monitors when they do it!

Maybe violent people and people carrying tools of violence without the legal ability to do so should be held? Just a thought.

itallendsintears t1_j2ac9rk wrote on December 30, 2022 at 8:08 PM

I…never said he shouldn’t….

Effective_Golf_3311 t1_j2adwta wrote on December 30, 2022 at 8:19 PM

My commentary was that you’re right… but somehow the state will justify trying to convince you you’re wrong

PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j28ynlm wrote on December 30, 2022 at 2:44 PM

Like I said, so what were his crimes? All I see are victimless policy violations. 🤷

discoslimjim t1_j297e34 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 3:46 PM

Shut up dude. You wanna sit next to a felon with a loaded gun on a plane?

BOSBoatMan t1_j299pjz wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:02 PM

I’m with you. Some people on here think this guy is the victim. I’d like to see his record I’m sure it is quite marvelous

PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j297tkj wrote on December 30, 2022 at 3:49 PM

Sure. Why wouldn't I? I'd have one too.

discoslimjim t1_j29afoc wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:07 PM

Oh cool. And if he drew the gun on you?

PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29byln wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:17 PM

Haha, and why would he? Dude is just trying to go on a trip. Don't live your life afraid of the world. Draw on me. Hahahahaha. On a plane. Amazon.

discoslimjim t1_j29dvl0 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:30 PM

Well he’s an unlicensed felon with a gun. Not the most predictable folks. Amazon.

PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29e8w2 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:32 PM

Again, he is unlicensed because of bullshit laws that shouldn't exist. Same reason he is a felon. Get rid of bogus anti gun laws and he is seemingly no more a criminal than you or I. Also, you don't think felons go on vacation? What's his plan in this scenario, stick up the plan passengers who he is stuck on the plane with for several more hours. 🙄

5teerPike t1_j29hm0e wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:54 PM

Why do felons need guns on vacation?

PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29hqxv wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:54 PM

Same reason as everyone else I'd imagine.

5teerPike t1_j29i90s wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:58 PM

Everyone else isn't a repeat offending criminal.

That's not an answer.

PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29ifpt wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:59 PM

Again his crime is victimless. Keep kneeling to the state. Daddy will keep on spanking you if you are a good boy.

5teerPike t1_j29ikn3 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 5:00 PM

I don't need a gun to walk through life lol

5teerPike t1_j29ishk wrote on December 30, 2022 at 5:01 PM

As per the article

"charged with his third offense of carrying a loaded firearm without a license, illegal possession of a firearm without a license with a prior violent offense"

It's not a victimless crime if it's a gun being carried by a person with a history of criminal violence.

His previous offense was not a victimless crime and it's why he's not allowed to have a gun.

PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29kjry wrote on December 30, 2022 at 5:12 PM

So, tell me, who exactly was the victim in this current arrest. I'll send them a card. And again "his third offense" doesn't mean anything when the law is immoral and spurious. 🤷.

5teerPike t1_j29ky9f wrote on December 30, 2022 at 5:15 PM

Everyone who has a right to safety and to not sit next to an armed criminal with a history of violence.

But if you need a gun all the time is that what you're preparing for? Because then that would just be two criminals on a plane with guns.

BlaineTog t1_j29qho2 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 5:49 PM

Once you've outted yourself as a violent asshole why won't follow the rules, it's reasonable to presume that you might get violent in the future. This warrants restrictions that wouldn't be in place for other people precisely to prevent future victims.

You're moving the goalposts on us here. Laws don't require a victim to be valid. Restraining orders, for example, could be argued as not technically having a victim since their aim is to prevent future crimes that haven't happened yet rather than punish past crimes. You're trying to pretend that that very simple and obvious type of legal restriction doesn't exist, while in fact it does.

ManWithTheCats t1_j29rrvj wrote on December 30, 2022 at 5:57 PM

Ah, so I only need to follow laws that I agree with. Good to know 🙄

5teerPike t1_j29hj0m wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:53 PM

>don't live your life afraid of the world

So why do you need to have a gun with you on a plane if you're not?

5teerPike t1_j29hfwe wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:52 PM

See how far you'll get through an airport with one then.

iamspartacus5339 t1_j292vd9 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 3:15 PM

Policy violation=crime when the policy is the federal government

PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j2930x2 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 3:16 PM

That's a terrible way to go through life. Free men and all that.

SugarSecure655 t1_j298gl8 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 3:53 PM

What is wrong with following the law dude?

PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j298nxy wrote on December 30, 2022 at 3:55 PM

Nothing, as long as it's a moral and valid law. Requiring an LTC isn't either of those things.

5teerPike t1_j29huhi wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:55 PM

It's perfectly moral not to let former criminals who are repeat offenders to have the means to kill people efficiently.

PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29i7v7 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:57 PM

Hahahahaah. So now he is a murderer. Keep making those giant leaps Superman. Fear is a choice my dude.

5teerPike t1_j29igfl wrote on December 30, 2022 at 4:59 PM

Fear is a choice? So why do you need a gun if you're not afraid?

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5teerPike t1_j29j9pz wrote on December 30, 2022 at 5:04 PM

He was previously convicted for a violent crime.

Why do you need a gun if you're not afraid ? Seems like you're avoiding the question because I hit a nerve on that point.

PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29k9c4 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 5:10 PM

Hahaha. Hit what nerve? You asked a silly question thinking it's some kind of "gotcha" when it wasn't. Carrying a gun isn't about fear. It's about preparedness, same as a seat belt, and a fire extinguisher or smoke alarms in your house. I don't expect anyone to carry a gun that doesn't want to, it's weird you'd expect someone else not to. Let people be.

5teerPike t1_j29kqr4 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 5:13 PM

I don't expect people with violent criminal records to be allowed to have guns. What are you preparing for that you need a gun all the time? Still sounds fearful to me.

What was he preparing for, The felon with the history of criminal violence?

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5teerPike t1_j29m273 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 5:22 PM

What I'm doing is free speech right now. You're just mad nobody who is reasonable agrees with you.

He literally has a history of criminal violence, did you even read the article?

Why do you need a gun if you're not afraid

PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29otwy wrote on December 30, 2022 at 5:39 PM

I'm not mad at all. I'm having a conversation. The worst thing about the internet is everyone thinks everyone else is mad because of opposing views. You are a complete stranger. You have no ability to make me mad. I don't care if he is a violent criminal , if he is out of prison, he gets full access to his rights. That's how a free society should work. If he is too dangerous to have his rights, then they shouldn't have let him out. Now back to your repeated fake gotcha question , I already told you, same reason you'd use a seatbelt or fire extinguisher, just in case. Your working theory seems to be that just because I'm not walking around afraid, like you, then I am not aware that bad things can happen. And that's silly.

5teerPike t1_j29pl47 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 5:44 PM

Lmfao you don't like it when I say you're, obviously, mad but you get to say I'm afraid. That's rich! I dont need a gun like you, so what are you preparing for that has you so afraid that you need a gun?

My working theory is that you're projecting. People with violent criminal histories don't get to have guns, why that bothers you is incredibly suspect.

I dont have a history of criminal violence, so if I want a gun I can have one. Sorry! You don't get to if you've been a violent piece of shit to people!

That you're more concerned with their "right" to have the means to kill people rather than the right to vote once they get out says a lot too!

SugarSecure655 t1_j29kcwc wrote on December 30, 2022 at 5:11 PM

Well apparently the majority of people voted for it which as least makes it a valid law. I have no idea why you think it's immoral to obey the law just because you don't agree with it.

PsychologicalAgent64 t1_j29p37l wrote on December 30, 2022 at 5:40 PM

You think that there was a public vote on licenses to carry? I didn't say obeying the law is immoral. I said the law itself is immortal because it takes away ones rights.

iamspartacus5339 t1_j295kmh wrote on December 30, 2022 at 3:34 PM

Well that’s what you get for living in America

SomeSortofDisaster t1_j290tu3 wrote on December 30, 2022 at 3:00 PM

Victimless policy violation or not, he's been convicted of the same thing multiple times and knows what he's not allowed to do.