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you-mistaken t1_iz5mo4z wrote

it is the same. some feel religon brings a lot of good and charity. your also making a strawman arguement as I never said the act of gender expression does cause harm. in fact my point since the beginning is who does it hurt? Sorry but it's an apples to apples comparison, you just don't like it. by your standards the religous people who feel it does cause harm could do what you are doing and say you need to shut up about religon and they are already allowed to speak on gender identity. Sorry us people who don't believe in the traditional views society has on gender must never fall into using religous logic. Which is we decide we are more moral and just and thus can play by different rules.

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bostonchef72296 t1_iz5nm8b wrote

Dude you sound like you’re like 15 years old I can’t even understand what you’re trying to say it’s completely incomprehensible at this point. It’s like you’re trying to sound smart but you don’t actually know how the words should fit together to make real sentences.

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[deleted] t1_iz5oc7u wrote

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bostonchef72296 t1_iz5owg3 wrote

The world is not black and white. One concept should not be applied to all circumstances. You’re putting words in my mouth and I won’t stand for that. You make absolutely no sense.

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you-mistaken t1_iz5qit5 wrote

you are the one making black and white statement not I. you are the one declaring religion does zero good and is all evil. while it does evil it does good. you then are implying that the view gender does exist is a good and righteous view with no evil. thus one who doesn't beileve in religon can still speak on it, while the opposite isn't true.

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bostonchef72296 t1_iz5radi wrote

Omg your reading comprehension dude. Where did I say ZERO GOOD and all evil? All I said was actively causes harm. I didn’t say ONLY causes harm. I’m done with this convo you clearly cannot understand nuance or anything In a grey area and just wanna argue. I don’t mean this as an insult at all but you sound like you have autism

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bostonchef72296 t1_iz5pfrn wrote

I find it incredibly offensive that you’re comparing my ideals to that of religious people on the grounds that I think you shouldn’t spread around the idea that gender is a construct when transgender people are currently fighting to not get shot on a regular basis.

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you-mistaken t1_iz5q7sq wrote

that's not what I'm comparing. what I'm comparing. I'm simply saying that the logic that one can not speak on something they don't beileve in is very faulty logic.

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you-mistaken t1_iz5r9zv wrote

you are not following me, I agree its a construct, we agree there. I believe it's a false construct. also it's terrible people are shot for their beliefs, but religious people are also killed everyday for their beliefs. My belief that gender isn't even real does nothing to put transgenders in any danger. Now had I sad gender is a very real thing and not just in the minds of society, I believe that would be more harmful to transgenders.

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you-mistaken t1_iz5oqcs wrote

I'm sorry if I'm not expressing myself well enough, is there something specific you are confused about as to what I'm saying? maybe if we just tackle 1 point at a time we can better understand eachother.

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bostonchef72296 t1_iz5povn wrote

I don’t feel like continuing this conversation with someone that clearly just wants to attack my points of view

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you-mistaken t1_iz5pzj7 wrote

I'm sorry, but I haven't attacked at all. you are the only one who has, and even after you attacked I didn't even attack back.

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