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redditor420_69 t1_izj637z wrote

While we’re at it allow happy hour again (a drunk girl stupidly sitting on a moving car’s hood in the 1980s doesn’t constitute for it to still be banned) and allow bars to stay open past 2am. Make Boston fun again

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Workacct1999 t1_izjcx5n wrote

Unfortunately, the bars don't want either of those to pass.

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NativeMasshole t1_izjta4v wrote

Why not? Being open later and having drink sales seems like a couple easy ways to increase business.

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drizzlefoot321 t1_izk3kgt wrote

Competition is not good for business owners, it good for consumers. They campaign heavily against this and for the expansion of liqour licenses. Competing against other businesses to see who can sell the cheapest drinks is not in their best interest. Having longer business hours just means more payroll. More liqour licenses is just more competition. Every business wants to create barriers of entry for competition and then milk the captive audience. Be it a bar, restaurant, liqour store etc etc.

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jp_jellyroll t1_izkczzn wrote

Not all competition is created equal though. Amazon was a direct competitor against mom-and-pop shops. Look how that ended up for the consumer.

The same thing will happen with bars & restaurants if we're not careful. Larger chains with assloads of capital, hyper-efficient business models, and zero personality will drive out all of the local bars & restaurants who can't compete with $1 shots, half-price booze / food, etc.

They'll be the only places left just like Walmart or Amazon and we'll wonder why there aren't anymore good places to eat or cool bars to hang out at.

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drizzlefoot321 t1_izm3mjy wrote

Well, your blending a couple different arguments here. I'm no Amazon apologist, but Amazon isn't bad for the consumer. bad for their employees I would say, bad for the environment, bad for people as a society, maybe, but not bad for the "consumer". I can get paper towels delivered to my house for cheaper than I could get at the mom and pop. In the pure context of a consumer, how am I worse off?

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brufleth t1_izjuuab wrote

There aren't that many people who would go to the bars later and staffing is already a shit show.

Selling booze for less money isn't a desirable "opportunity." It is just selling product for less. If they choose not to do it then they'll lose business. When they do it to compete, they make less money on the business they already had.

Lose lose for bars.

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Guerschon_Yabusele t1_izjwzse wrote

lol look at econ 101 over here. Why should they not have the ability to stay open later or have specials on alcohol if they want to? It wouldn't be a mandate.

Both are ways for bars/restaurants to find a niche

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brufleth t1_izk0rc5 wrote

They asked why bars aren't for these motions. I stated why.

I won't argue that the bars shouldn't be allowed to do whatever. I don't care, but the reason bars aren't pushing for these is because it makes it more difficult to compete.

People should keep in mind that making it even harder to run a successful bar here will mean even fewer local places and more Buffalo-Wildwings-esque places.

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FitzwilliamTDarcy t1_izjjwjd wrote

Honestly it’s not the 2am last call. It’s the people. Most bars seem to go dark or close to it by midnight. Sleepy town.

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big_whistler t1_izjpxb9 wrote

Well its not like you can take public transit home that late so that would be an issue

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FitzwilliamTDarcy t1_izkdujq wrote

But it's all sort of wrapped up in the same issue. If demand were there, then presumably sooner or later "the rest" would be legislated/operated to fit.

NYC's transit system runs 24/7/365. Bars are open until 4 and not only is it not especially enforced but many bars and clubs are open well beyond sunrise.

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SpaceBasedMasonry t1_izjuoig wrote

Yeah, why would we expect people to plan for staying out late when there is nothing to stay out late for, or even a way to cheaply and easily get home? Of course it seems sleepy.

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brufleth t1_izk1bl2 wrote

I mean, you just take a cab/uber. People just don't want to bother though. You can also have a designated driver. It isn't like other places don't have similar (or much worse) transit issues.

I think people on reddit just often greatly overestimate the demand for all night drinking. This isn't a party town. We've mostly got work in the morning.

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SpaceBasedMasonry t1_izlaux5 wrote

I think people underestimate how if options were consistent, reliable, and expected, more people would stay out late.

The worst thing the T did with it's late night experiment was calling it that. Everyone knew it was going to end and didn't change accordingly.

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TheGrandExquisitor t1_izlfmu7 wrote

https://www.theonion.com/pretty-cute-watching-boston-residents-play-daily-game-o-1819574643

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FitzwilliamTDarcy t1_iznvkg3 wrote

As a transplanted NYer....yeah.

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TheGrandExquisitor t1_izocj8m wrote

I'm from Seattle and feel that way. Like, how does Seattle have better nightlife than Boston?

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FitzwilliamTDarcy t1_izsokna wrote

I've come to appreciate that Boston offers many things. Nightlife however is not one of them.

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TheGrandExquisitor t1_izt5t96 wrote

It is weird. Just from my perspective. Seattle was always considered a second tier city. The big bois had all the nightlife and crazy fun. LA, NY, Chicago, and I assumed Boston. I mean it had to, right? All those schools and such.

Nope.

Turns out Boston hates fun and is stuck in 1930.

Weird.

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FitzwilliamTDarcy t1_iztrnxo wrote

Maybe if more college students were 21?

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TheGrandExquisitor t1_izu3nms wrote

That ain't it.

I did grad school in Boston. There is a HUGE demand for nightlife of all kinds.

The problem is, Boston, and Mass in general hate fun and anything new.

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brufleth t1_izjuhjv wrote

And thus all the stuff that only people on reddit seem to care about has been contained in this one post.

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