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Siegeceejay t1_jczefz6 wrote

Avian flu. Not allowed to be called free range. Now barn reared. Not battery hens at all totally diffrent.

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[deleted] t1_jd20alz wrote

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Hystus t1_jd2pqrg wrote

Genuinely curious. Elaborate plz.

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[deleted] t1_jd2r820 wrote

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Dorocche t1_jd2uriv wrote

So you're saying every plausible option for farming hens on a mass scale is unethical. It's a small flock in the backyard or it's abuse.

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Dorocche t1_jd2vml4 wrote

Understood. I will continue to be vegan, but with a new interesting fact to look into.

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Dorocche t1_jd3hlei wrote

What counts as ethically raised for you?

I used to think vegetarians were illogical cowards, because as you point out dairy causes at least as much harm as meat does. These days, though, I've realized that they're being completely logical: they're causing less harm than they would if they still ate meat, even though their harm isn't zero. A vegan's harm isn't zero either, it's just comparatively negligible. It doesn't have to be black and white.

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Dorocche t1_jd3lv8f wrote

Oh, I meant more practically; what do you look for on the side of the box or the company's website or whatever to see if it's ethical?

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sendmoneyimpoor t1_jd3azi1 wrote

You can’t ETHICALLY raise an animal for meat. There is nothing ethical about taking away a life for your tastebuds. Do better, bro.

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Ineedtwocats t1_jd3bigb wrote

also, nothing is stopping backyard chickens from also being abused

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