polywha OP t1_j27nfia wrote
Reply to comment by FatherofthePens in Question about The Glass Onion (spoilers) by polywha
Does he mention that? And if that's the case why have an override button at all?
Garrub t1_j27p4sg wrote
You shouldn’t, it’s dumb. But miles is dumb.
WarmMoistLeather t1_j27pqo1 wrote
It's shown. You can hear the glass retract. That's how it keeps closing over and over every time Duke's phone dings.
Outlog t1_j284jj0 wrote
OP is asking why it opens on its own (not closes).
BaronVonLazercorn t1_j287lo7 wrote
And they said you can hear it retract, as in open again
Outlog t1_j287y6u wrote
Here:
1.Ding
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Security glass closes (because of ding)
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Security glass then opens (why?)
Is it timed? How does the security system determine the threat is gone?
BaronVonLazercorn t1_j288dgv wrote
That seems like the most logical reason, yes. That and other sensors to determine active threats like heat, etc.
There is probably an initial dB sensor. If a sound occurs over a certain threshold, the barrier closes as a precaution. Then after say 10 seconds, if no further threats are detected, it opens back up.
In reality the painting would be enclosed at all times. But the opening/closing is clearly a thematic device that doesn't need so much thought put into the technicalities of how/why it works the way it does
queen-adreena t1_j28f9aw wrote
I can see why a billionaire wouldn’t pay that much to ship it round the world only to have to look at it through plastic.
That said, the Mona Lisa is painted on wood, not canvas. So either the film goofed, or they sent Miles a fake.
BaronVonLazercorn t1_j28jgl5 wrote
Considering the cultural and historical significance of the Mona Lisa, I can't imagine you would be allowed to keep it out in the open, even if you did somehow manage to buy it from the state.
Besides, you wouldn't want anything to happen to it considering how much you would've paid for it. Plus you would forever be known as the dickhead that destroyed the Mona Lisa, like Miles.
As for the wood thing, you're right, but after hundreds of years that poplar might be able to go up like canvas. But I can also imagine The Louvre giving Miles a fake. After all, Mus- I mean Miles is an idiot.
Outlog t1_j288mhj wrote
I understand thematic devices, but also happen to enjoy discussing engineering and technology. 🤷
Appreciate the input!
BaronVonLazercorn t1_j288oji wrote
Then you should've been able to figure out how it works, no?
Outlog t1_j288rgc wrote
Oh, you're actually snarky and rude? Got it. Moving on.
BaronVonLazercorn t1_j288ylq wrote
Not trying to be. You said you enjoy conversations about engineering and technology, so I thought you would've easily come to the same conclusion
CrosseyedBilly t1_j2a6w9i wrote
We’ll miles says he wanted the button installed so he could know there wasn’t anything in between himself and the painting
uglyowlet t1_j27tq6v wrote
Benoit Blanc has a whole scene talking about Miles' shortcomings that lead to one of my favorite lines in the movie.
King_Buliwyf t1_j280g38 wrote
No! It's just dumb!
abeeyore t1_j27pyhq wrote
It’s not mentioned, but if you pay attention, you can see it reopening in the background of some of the scenes.
My question was why it slammed shut the first few times she broke the glass pieces, but then stopped (presumably staying closed).
Prestigious-Owl165 t1_j27v4t9 wrote
It stayed closed because everyone started smashing stuff and the scene turned into chaos rather than one loud noise every ten seconds when she would break something
abeeyore t1_j29w72m wrote
That was my assumption, but at first glance it seemed like it was more complicated than a simple reset timer.
Outlog t1_j28483e wrote
I have zero clues to why you're getting down votes. There is no explanation to how the security system determines the "threat" is gone and can lower the glass again on its own. Is it just timed? Is it different based on the "threat"? When would the override be needed then?
figmentPez t1_j286us9 wrote
The override is "needed" because Bron likes having control. He wants to be able to view the Mona Lisa without any glass in the way, any time he wants, regardless of anything going on. He thinks the security is over sensitive, and it triggers too easily, so it put in an override that lets him have control. He's such a man-child that he can't even wait quietly for it to disengage. He's probably even touched the painting before.
Outlog t1_j28sjlm wrote
Well apparently the OP got enough responses from y'all to feel like deleting their original message in the thread.... lol. I was just trying to help them explain their question/intrigue better, as most were misunderstanding the original prompt. Reddit, you are a mystery like the thematic tools of cinema.
Appreciate your discourse.
Outlog t1_j28718e wrote
We're asking about the security system itself, not his desire to override. What is it about the system that makes it remove the glass protective barrier on its own (no override)?
figmentPez t1_j28aqkj wrote
There's an old question in writing: "What kills a vampire?" The answer is not garlic, or silver, or sunlight, or a stake through the chest. It's whatever the author decides kills vampires.
The security system, like a vampire, is fictional. It functions however the script says it functions, and the audience is not given a great deal of info about the system. We know it is sensitive, that it goes off when phones get notifications, and that the glass retracts on it's own. We are not told what triggers the end of the security lockdown, only that any lockdown Bron can't control is too much.
The glass goes down at some point, and ultimately that point is when it's convenient for the writer/director/editor for it to go down.
drillgorg t1_j28gwsc wrote
Yeah I'm an engineer and I came to terms with the fact that most of the science in this movie is hand wavey. That's ok! It's not a movie about technology, it's a movie about mystery.
The napkin of course doesn't even try to make sense, they never even explain what the central idea of Alpha is. The fact that hydrogen gas would leak out of residential natural gas lines is a known problem, but it's an easily solvable problem for a spacecraft or a power plant. In fact a breakthrough in hydrogen tech would be world changing if you just plan for it the right way. Like was said above, the case opens and closes based on when the plot needs it to. The robot dog carrying the luggage was a gag but how did it load and unload the luggage? The fire extinguishing system conveniently came on only once it was too late for the plot.
And again, I don't mind any of this. It's a good movie which isn't about technology, it doesn't need the tech to make sense.
leggpurnell t1_j28iz1n wrote
Sure they explained what Alpha was - on the napkin:
- Free app
- ?????
- Buy island
Whompa t1_j28bbwq wrote
I think it goes like this: No more noise, no more glass wall. Simple ping noise wasn’t a large enough threat for the system to stay closed. That’s how I saw it at least. It’s dumb, like Miles.
the-tacktelneck t1_j28wmbr wrote
It’s so he can stand close to it which would continually make it override
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