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codytownshend t1_j9h1rih wrote

Make up your mind, you fucking yokels.
Do you want your businesses to be successful and have traffic? Do you want big business to have incentives to put their operations over the border and hire out of MA as well? Do you think fucking BAE just really doesn't want to wear their seatbelts on their way to work? Do you really think only NH natives are enough to fuel the businesses of resort towns on lakes and ski resorts?

This is inevitable. If you don't like urban sprawl, move north like me and my relatives have been doing every 20 years or so. It is what it is. NH NEEDS MA or else a lot of people are gonna have to sell a lot of pontoon boats.

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MiggySmalls6767 t1_j9hdp0j wrote

You can come and utilize said businesses and head back to mass and live on top of each other. It’s simple.

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StrikingExamination6 t1_j9hmpvh wrote

That is the dumbest opinion you can have. When rural New England towns die, this is the mentality that will have killed them. I hope you enjoy your town with nothing new opening, but for the rest of us, new is good.

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raxnbury t1_j9hqr6r wrote

I think you kind of hit the nail on the head though. They want zero change. They want their little town to stay just like it is forever. I mean Jesus, go drive around grafton or coos county. More buildings boarded up than not. But hey, at least there’s no scary big city folk.

Seriously though, once you get north of concord you might as well be somewhere deep in Mississippi or Alabama

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StrikingExamination6 t1_j9ht5ho wrote

Look at aroostook county in maine. They’re so afraid of “the others” that they allow town after town to die instead of attempting to bring in any type of new blood.

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raxnbury t1_j9hv93f wrote

“The others” you ain’t lying. Was up north a few years ago during the height of the George Floyd protests doing some work for a guy who actually believed “those n-words are gonna come here and rob us” I gently reminded him of the half dozen or so meth heads currently vandalizing the area, but yes, he scared of black peoples who wouldn’t be caught dead in those boonies.

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GonzoTheGreat22 t1_j9hnwyr wrote

LOL you’ll all still bitch when 93 south is a parking lot on Sunday afternoon.

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Intru t1_j9ih022 wrote

Or you know we can de-center car oriented development and you know prevent sprawl, promote livable density and promote rail down to mass and other work corridors so that less traffic happens. A lot of our community's urban centers and older suburb could use some density and could handle a modest bump-up in it. It's a win win we keep sprawl outside of the woods and we increase housing without going full 10 story towers, not like that was going to ever happen anyways, especially when most recidencial zoned land in the state is reserved for single family which is part of the reason why we can't build more affordably (yes i know there's a lot of other factors as well) just preamting the density means skyscraper crowd.

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GonzoTheGreat22 t1_j9j5m3b wrote

You’re not wrong. But I would point you to exhibit A: every single one of you fives in a town and every single one of those towns has a FB page. And every single time something new or different or expansive is mentioned or begun, every slack jawed generational townie sharpens their pitchfork to go on there and say “ we’re becoming Massachusetts!!!1!” All because an apartment complex is being erected.

They cite the traffic it will cause while complaining about those people not working. They complain that it will overburden the school though there are less families with children per capita in apartments than in single fam neighborhoods. They bitch about the infrastructure while complaining about paying to upgrade the infrastructure.

It doesn’t matter. People complain. Progress is necessary and it’s hard because someone’s grandpa didn’t need a rail system to Boston.

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Intru t1_j9kmjf4 wrote

Oh I'm with you on this, with one correction, most of our grandparent, us millennials and boomers, actually did need/use trains to Boston, and pretty much every single town in NH up to the 1950s that how we moved around. Although not in NH my grandfather always complained about that we got rid of trains, trolleys, and train travel, he always lamented how annoying and stressful it is to drive into our state capital, San Juan, with a car and wished the trains were still there. The man was a coffee farmer from the sticks and still could see the value of good public transit.

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GonzoTheGreat22 t1_j9l780h wrote

I’m 1000% with you. But people still bitch.

These will complain about ‘Big Government’ spending our hard earned tax dollars on trains that only out of towners will use to rob our homes and violate the good name of our women. Shit, the state (I won’t tell you which side of the aisle) has already shut down the study, BEING PAID FOR BY FEDERAL FUNDS, into rail continuation feasibility.

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