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SillyIce t1_j9txuo7 wrote

He’s against many good things, including weed. He’s a GOP puppet so I’ll pass.

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joshtaco t1_j9vcjow wrote

this^ he's just another GOP goon pretending to be centrist for your votes and then just votes the party line when it matters. no surprise there.

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whydidilose t1_j9vdrer wrote

Are there a lot of politicians that routinely don't vote down party lines? For either side?

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joshtaco t1_j9vhasa wrote

Sure, but most don't get gullible people voting for them claiming that they won't

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razed_intheghetto t1_j9ujac1 wrote

He’s only “against” it bc he wants to keep it in the same model as the Stat Liquor stores. Can’t do that when its Fed illegal.

He is continuously called a RINO too, so he must be doing something right!

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Cydoni t1_j9v6h4z wrote

Ah yes, the foolproof “on both sides of I-95” model.

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batmansmotorcycle t1_j9v1o95 wrote

Has he ever once said that? No

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BarbarossaTheGreat t1_j9vw8yi wrote

He has said it multiple times, and even if he hadn’t, it’s obvious that’s what he’s holding out for.

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razed_intheghetto t1_j9vbsi4 wrote

I don’t think he can say it that way? But no, he’s obviously never said that.

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IntelligentMeal40 t1_j9tur0e wrote

I liked him until he went on the news and started flipping out about the northern border. That shows me he’s just as ill as the rest of the MAGAts

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Beautiful_Mix2536 t1_j9twwcm wrote

I look at your account and know you live on Reddit. No one gonna take you serious gang. Sorry.

People who downvoted just mad cus they the same. Truth and reality hurts. Atleast he’s not a free stater 🗿

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Z3r0_Co0l t1_j9u3fxe wrote

Especially being active in antiwork, amazing how many basement dwellers live in NH 🙄

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hindermore t1_j9u6roc wrote

Not that I post in antiwork, but the majority of the posts I see there are about how employers take advantage of low level employees and not necessarily about people that just don’t want to work because they are lazy. How is that indication of being a “basement dweller”?

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asphynctersayswhat t1_j9ucvvs wrote

To right wingers any man who isn’t hardcore conservative is a man-bun wearing basement dweller who doesn’t know their gender. Funny thing though, these basement dwellers are also apparently experts at election fraud, and have stolen several without consequences.

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hardsoft t1_j9uhzz2 wrote

I was banned from antiwork for pointing out stealing from your employer is both illegal and unethical.

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trig8787 t1_j9v2mgu wrote

Probably because that isn’t the point of antiwork lol

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hardsoft t1_j9w1mji wrote

I was commenting to a thread promoting theft but was banned for "supporting authority"

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trig8787 t1_j9w2cqa wrote

Damn, that sucks. I agree with your comment.

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Azr431 t1_j9vujo2 wrote

r/antiwork is more about pushing back against exploitative capitalism. I’m in the top 10% of income levels and a regular there. Right is socialism and wrong is capitalism.

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mafiafish t1_j9u6mpt wrote

Depends on the viewpoint:

Moderating the worst inclinations of the legislature - good.

Not getting wrapped up in vacuous "war on woke" nonsense - reassuring.

Not really having any specific aspirations or aims to improve the state - disappointing.

Switching his stance on things to appease different groups - bad.

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NewHampshireAngle t1_j9xhdf0 wrote

I don’t mind a politician who is reluctant to meddle with what works just to make it look like he’s working or to virtue signal the pensioner fascists as we see from Desantis in Florida. Heavy-handed interventionist government isn’t what I look for in a Republican leader. What I see from both parties too often is followship, not leadership. Sununu is a leader, and not despite the low-key style but because of it.

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kitchinsink t1_j9u9aq5 wrote

I haven't, and will continue not to vote for him, largely because I don't align with him on many issues that are important to me.
On The Issues

A sprinkling of examples:
I believe that we should legalize cannabis. He does not, and often uses the opioid crisis as an example. While that seems like a good argument on the surface, because fighting drugs with more drugs feels weird, studies show that "states with medical cannabis laws experienced slower rates of increase in opioid analgesic overdose death rates compared to states without such laws." One such study

I disagree with him on restricting funding to Planned Parenthood. PP provides tons of valuable services. Community based health services are a boon for people, and as such they should be funded accordingly. Having good access to birth control and sexual health information is also good for reducing abortions.

I agree with his business-minded changes. I've owned more than one business in NH and NH continues to be a pretty business friendly state.

I disagree with the school choice, because I see it as taking away money from public schools. I grew up in pretty extreme poverty and public school was my saving grace. It helped me become an educated and well rounded. I also do not want my tax dollars to go to religious schools, because I see it as a violation of the separation of church and state, something which is important to me.

I agree with him on things like environmental cleanup, PFAS mitigation, no state income and sales tax. I disagree on him blocking commuter rail, as it would provide solid public transportation to a lot of people and bring economic success to NH.

In the end, I largely don't vote for him because of those harm reduction issues. I believe that in our society there are always things we will not like, but are necessary to keep things moving along and keep people safe and sound.

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TheGrateKhan t1_j9u2hf9 wrote

I Never truly "liked" him. After 2020, i cant stand him. Hes not pro 2A. He has stated that he's just against any further restrictions. Hes happy letting people drown in alcohol until their entire insides are pickled, but a less harmful plant that makes you happy? He always says "its not the right time" not even for personal growth/possession. When the state was given all that covid money that was supposed to be used to help the citizens overcome the roadblocks that came with the virus. Instead, the state hoarded as much of that money as it could and now Sununu wants to give the leftover money to large construction companies in exchange for small patches of luxury condos/apartments. Personally, I dont understand how he consistently wins reelection.

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TheMobyDicks t1_j9u89c4 wrote

>Sununu wants to give the leftover money to large construction companies in exchange for small patches of luxury condos/apartments

Yeah...no. This is what he's putting the Covid money towards: "InvestNH makes $100 million available to accelerate the approval and construction of affordable workforce housing in New Hampshire." https://www.nheconomy.com/about-us/investnh

And his stance on weed is pretty clear. He sees it as a commodity - like you pointed out regarding alcohol. He wants it to be legalized federally so NH can sell it at liquor stores. He wants the state to get the revenue. Not saying I agree just that that seems to be his motivation.

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TheGrateKhan t1_j9uegzs wrote

Edit: happy cake day!!

Ive looked into his proposals, the state will match money that is already put up, and pretty much everything needs to already be in progress to apply. this naturally locks out smaller companies and individuals who cannot put up the same amount cash as larger, usually out of state construction. At minimum, 10 million to be used specifically for 15 unit buildings or less. Also, the "affordable" part of the housing is only in place for 5 years, and even during the 5 year period, these arent rent controlled in the sense that its only 500 a month per unit or similar, its an allowable range of rent to be charged based on an ever changing table that will only decrease if the Area median income goes down. Where NH is continuing to appeal to wealthy transplants, this will only increase the allowable rents to be charged. The citizens wouldve probably been better served actually receiving those funds during the pandemic through rental assistance, improved unemployment, even just extra medical system funding.

In regard to cannabis, the state is already not getting a cut. The states that have legal cannabis are already taking funds away from NH liquor stores. If NH passed state law and then taxed the revenue of those businesses, it would at least keep some of the lost alcohol revenue inside of the state instead of giving all of it to our neighbors. They wouldnt even need to sell it out of the liquor stores. Also, the feds have done nothing to any of the states that have full legalization of cannabis or mushrooms and some even harder drugs. The idea that NH opening up a few "Nh Liquor Wine and Weed Outlet" will trigger the feds to take action is unlikely.

Im not saying that Vermin Supreme would make a better Governor, im just not pleased with this one.

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TheMobyDicks t1_j9ugwq9 wrote

>the "affordable" part of the housing is only in place for 5 years

Yep. I hated that. And certainly it was owing to pressure put on lawmakers by rich developers. The Innis bill, which will pass, will fund InvestNH for next year and then we'll see if the powers that be will continue afterwards. The concept is sound, it just needs to go more than 5 years. Obviously, if we're serious about attainable housing, developers need to be incentivized to meet a reasonable ROI. Housing Opportunity Zones can help with this. To wit:

https://casetext.com/statute/new-hampshire-revised-statutes/title-5-taxation/chapter-79-e-community-revitalization-tax-relief-incentive/section-79-e4-c-housing-opportunity-zone

If a community did this, they can freeze the local taxes at whatever rate the property is currently taxed at for up to 10 years if the project is 1/3 affordable. A very lucrative benefit. A 'community of the willing" could also pass things such as density bonuses, 1 parking space per unit versus bedroom, increase housing, decrease setbacks, etc. There are ways to get there, it just takes, well, a village.

Regarding weed, please clarify this as I didn't quite get what you were saying:

"The states that have legal cannabis are already taking funds away from NH liquor stores."

Also, who did you mean when you said, "Vermin Supreme"?

Thanks!

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TheGrateKhan t1_j9uidcc wrote

Our neighboring states, mass, maine, vermont. They have legal cannabis. Nh citizens that want to use just drive over the border, buy, and then consume. So long as they dont cross any state lines, the nh citizen has broken no laws. So the money that wouldve gone to NH liquor is instead going to legal cannabis in other states. If nh legalized, at least a portion of the alcohol revenue lost would return to the state as cannabis or business tax revenue. The people who have switched from NH alcohol to out of state cannabis are generally not coming back to the bottle, at least not as much as before our neighbors legalized. If we legalized and had lower taxes than our neighbors, our neighbors' citizens would then be doing to NH, what NH citizens are currently doing to states like MA, ME, and VT.

Vermin Supreme is a candidate from NH who ran or still runs for president. He wears a long boot atop his head and promises free ponies for everyone if elected.

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chait1199 t1_j9u36r5 wrote

Overall, not a fan. I think his COVID response was very good and I give him credit where it’s due. However, I completely despise his continuing attempts to shield his true conservative policy beliefs behind a moderate mask. It’s completely dishonest and intentionally misleading. Moreover, he’s essentially just another corrupt conservative Republican who I have no intentions of voting for, but I’m willing to point out his rear Ws when they come.

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smartest_kobold t1_j9u823b wrote

He'll go back to being a regular trust fund baby pretty soon and we can forget about him.

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Skidmarkthecat t1_j9u9yyi wrote

He used to be my immediate boss WAY before he was in politics.

That + his points of view keep him a NO in my book

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Tiredoftheact t1_j9uj34c wrote

And what was he like as your immediate boss?

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Skidmarkthecat t1_j9umf8p wrote

In a word, Dictatorial

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Tiredoftheact t1_j9uxy5z wrote

Can you elaborate? I’ve always wondered what the real Sununu is like. He’s got the down to earth, easy going act down pat but it’s definitely a front

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whydidilose t1_j9ve716 wrote

I worked at a NH hospital. He came there to do some stuff for the press. Should have been good optics for both him and the hospital.

As he was leaving, he was complaining to one of his people about how shitty the hospital space provided was too small for his optics. It's fair to complain about the venue, but this guy was such a massive dick that he couldn't even wait to leave the building. That tells me what kind of person he is. His political stances don't matter.

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Hextall2727 t1_j9u8aln wrote

I lean left, but would vote for him in the primary to try and keep Trump or Desantis off the GOP general election ticket (I did the same in 2016 with Kasich).
It would be unlikely I'd vote for him in the general election as most of my values do not align with the GOP platform.

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sledbelly t1_j9uqaog wrote

I don’t like any politician that cowtows to MAGA crowds and refuses to do what the citizens of his state want. NH has lost millions of dollars due to his ineptitude.

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Rylock_The_Wicked t1_j9ui83y wrote

I'm a pretty firm democrat, but I dont think he's terrible. Definitely not a 'good' governor, but hes a safe governor in the sense that not much will change while he's in change. The political equivalent to kicking a can down the road until an actual good candidate is ready to challenge him.

I do find it really amusing that he always makes appearances wearing work boots. Hardworking, blue-collar, man of the people, just with a trust fund.

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shortieXV t1_j9usu0x wrote

He has vetoed attempts to move closer to ranked choice voting and attempts to make gerrymandering harder. To me this means he is a turd. But in a party of explosive diarrhea inducing Trumphumpers I take the turd I suppose.

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Undaedalus t1_j9uv6m4 wrote

He claims he's "not a trump supporter" until it's time to sign something, then he immediately does whatever team trump orders him to do.

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Hungry-Big-2107 t1_j9vppx0 wrote

His mismanagement of federal funds is the reason the state is no longer receiving ERA, including $67 million in additional rental assistance.

The CAP program was a huge success for people weathering insane rent cost increases. More than two dozen states with such programs were able to secure federal funding so that full-time workers struggling to keep up with rent could get assistance. CAP would pay rents directly to landlords, so both the tenants and the owners of the property would be covered during Covid. Landlords got their money and tenants got to keep their homes.

Thanks to Sununu, the program is being shut down. While other states still manage to keep getting funding, Sununu misused $19 million of the ERA2 federal funding, which caused their request for an additional $67 to be denied the following year.

Tom Sherman, who ran for governor on the promise that such funds wouldn't be mismanaged, warned that misuse of ERA2 funding would lead to the state being cut off from future funding. And he was right.

Now New Hampshire tenants are screwed, while other states that correctly allocated their housing benefits will recover additional funding.

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wallflowerattheorgy t1_j9uhb0g wrote

Boooooo richbitch nepo baby that doesn't even pretend to care about the people in this state.

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OhTHATKayKay t1_j9wea5h wrote

He's a dink. Has been since we were kids. He's just a shady politician with no friends.

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veganprovolone t1_j9wgl93 wrote

hate him. hate him even more since he has so much to say about granite staters wanting to continue their education and get "expensive degrees". the in state tuition for NH residents is among the highest in the country..... he can get bent.

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powpowpowpowpowp t1_j9u5flq wrote

Could be worse.

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Wasteland_Mystic t1_j9un2bk wrote

Could be better too.

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WapsuSisilija t1_j9utxai wrote

Not great. Not terrible.

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Wasteland_Mystic t1_j9uuifb wrote

> Not terrible.

That is up for debate.

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DegenGolfer t1_j9wydc0 wrote

No it’s not

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Encyclofreak t1_j9uxoau wrote

Let me put it this way, I cast my ballot against him the last two elections, yet I didn't suffer from crippling anxiety after he won.

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Rolling_Beardo t1_j9vx0j6 wrote

He’s about as useful as screen door on a submarine.

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tallulah_hoops t1_j9wgjs1 wrote

I wouldn’t…. Our country deserves much, much better..

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EmeraldMoose12 t1_j9tyzlz wrote

I’d vote for him, but there is still a lot be desired.

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dduubbz t1_j9u8nrx wrote

He’s okay for a republican, I don’t agree with their ideology so I’m obviously biased but if I ever had to vote for a republican I’d hope it’s sununu lol

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schtroumpf t1_j9udb7u wrote

A nepotism hire and intellectual lightweight, but don’t vote for the person vote for the policies. I personally think his policies are bad, but it sounds like you don’t. Because he’s not an outright fascist zealot, I see no reason not to support him if you like what he says he wants to achieve (weighed against what is actually possible for him to achieve). It will never match with your beliefs/values 100%, but that’s what a democracy looks like.

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ericools t1_j9ugp9k wrote

He seems to be a run of the mill politician. He's going to pander to whoever he needs to get to votes and do what those who get him elected ask him to.

Probably not any worse than any other presidential candidate with a chance in hell, and if he goes to Washington maybe we can get a better Governor.

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luvmyvolvo t1_j9uzzks wrote

can't stand him. republican frat boy with a name that took him to the governor's mansion

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therealbeth t1_j9xgldt wrote

He did a good job during covid, but he...

Won't legalize marijuana

Supports my tax money being taken from improving public education for all kids and being used instead to send children to religious indoctrination facilities

Doesn't support women's healthcare or reproductive choice

Pandered to the insane MAGA extremists

However, he...

Has supported some positive environmental policies

Does support requiring reporting of police misconduct

Has handled state funds pretty well in general

Based on the first 4 points, I likely won't vote for him again unless his opponent is extra shitty or he makes some real changes to fix these problems.

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Consistent_Tower_973 t1_j9xi5ln wrote

Regardless on your stances on issues, the main problem we should all agree on with Sununu is that he simply does not lead.

Seriously! Think back to enacting and removing restrictions during Covid. On almost every single issue he had authority over, NH was right in the middle of the pack when it came to restrictions, and/or changed policies within days of similar decisions in Massachusetts. There was very little innovation in either direction. You could practically guarantee a watered-down version of whatever Mass enacted within a week or predict that Sununu would change policies after 15-25 states had already done so.

The same goes for the ban on Tiktok on state government devices. Was Sununu the first to do so? No. Did he hold out until the end? Nope. We were the 14th-16th state to do so, depending on which policies your counting. I'd bet anything that any further meaningful restrictions on TikTok come after a similar number of states adopt them first.

As for any economic successes, the truth is that the success of the NH economy has more to do with the success of the Massachusetts economy than whoever is in control of Concord. With the overwhelming majority of the population, business centers, and development being located in the southern portion of the state and therefore highly linked to/dependent on the Mass economy, it's easy for NH governors of all parties to simply sit back and claim success. In fact, it's rather hard for NH politicians to mess up the economy as long as Massachusetts continues to do well economically. Sununu, rather than being a leader and dramatically improving NH, is content to sit back and rely on his last name, his money, and the Commonwealth of Massachusetts to fuel his image on the state and national levels, rather than actually displaying any true leadership skills.

Oh, and of course, we can't forget that he's a "nice guy", as I've so often heard him called. That definitely earns him the right to govern us.

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bilug335 t1_j9wii3e wrote

The whole window tint issue inferiorates me - so it's a no for Sununu.

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sande16 t1_j9wlw6h wrote

I voted for him once, and felt he did a decent job of managing the state. Since 2020, and his failure to disavow Trump and the assault on Congress, I want nothing to do with him. I've heard him say Trump is 'crazy' only to take it back and say it was a 'joke' at a roast. The Trump thing is bad enough. The deal breaker is the assault on Congress.

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snowman603 t1_j9xviwe wrote

I disagree with him on clean energy and climate. He’s vetoed many a good solar bill which would allow for larger projects and economies of scale, yet electricity prices are sky high. He does whatever Eversource asks him to do.

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bleucheese87 t1_j9u0ouo wrote

I generally vote democrat, with that being said Sununu is a pretty good governor for the most part. He has dragged his feet on marijuana but seems to be closer to the middle in terms of left and right. I did see his interview on fox news after he won the election and he was acting completely different than he does in his other interviews but I'm assuming he was just playing to his audience like all politicians do. I think he would certainly do a MUCH better job than both Biden and Trump.

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asphynctersayswhat t1_j9ud5q3 wrote

He was totally playing the maga card, IMO, to test the waters. All his press lately is just feeling out his chances and the best strategy. As a governor I see sununu as my kind of republican. Weed aside, he’s a small government conservative.

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Methos1979 t1_j9u9j0g wrote

Well said. Couldn't agree with this assessment more. Almost exactly what I was going to write.

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Szabaka t1_j9uca49 wrote

one huge risk if you don't want the GOP to control the US Senate again is if one or more NH Senators can no longer serve out the term - the replacement Senator is appointed by the Govnr and that would then give the GOP an additional seat

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jgren91 t1_j9us7a8 wrote

Could be better could be worse

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bingqiling t1_j9utzlz wrote

Could be worse, could be better....

Like others have said, he's also completely out of touch with the day to day experience of people given how extraordinarily wealthy he/his family is and continues to not listen to his constiuents (ie cannabis legalization).

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Berzerk_Unit_Alpha t1_j9uuwcy wrote

Born and bred to be a politician. It’s in his blood.

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jcgaunet t1_j9ygplb wrote

As a left-leaning independent, I find him tolerable and have voted for him. I support limited sales tax and no state income tax. Our property taxes are high, but at least you can see what you're spending all in one place.

NH has a very bad fentanyl problem and homeless problem. The state has not done enough to clean up our cities, especially Manchester. We have a lack of affordable housing, and we're the only state in New England that hasn't raised minimum wage above $7.25/hour.

He's been moderate on abortion and I am pro-choice, so I have a hard time supporting any Republican. Overall he is far above tfg and DeSantis. He's seems affable but people say he can be an a$$. I'm on my town's conservation Commission and we have received quite a lot of state funding for trail projects, although it's very competitive process.

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Nanotude t1_j9ym2j5 wrote

He thinks he can run for president and really has no interest in being governor, a la Mitt Romney. He signed the restrictive abortion bill and doesn't want legalized cannabis. He's paying lip service to issues that Trumpers care about like border control. He's slimy.

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MortaLPortaL t1_ja23sl4 wrote

I hope he falls face first into a cactus.

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FreezingRobot t1_j9u4ww5 wrote

I like him. I'm a Democrat and I voted for him for governor last election.

That being said, if it was Biden vs Sununu in 2024 (which is extremely unlikely), I wouldn't vote for him.

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Full_Mission7183 t1_j9utvhj wrote

Well, he’s good enough that the Dems haven’t been able to ticket a serious contender for governor since he has been in office. He’s good enough that if the Republican presidential primary was today, he would get my vote over any other currently announced candidate. Father was Bush I’s chief of staff, so have to assume he has a line on traditional GOP fundraising available to him. He’s anti-federalist, I think he handled Covid as (as a real and political minefield) as well as anyone in the country. Is he more likable than a Larry Hogan? I think so. Can a GOP centrist take the reigns from its current populist base… probably not. But, and this is a big but, but if somehow Trump and Desantis end up going into an open convention, a moderate with a couple of votes on the board might be a good place to be.

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CumSicarioDisputabo t1_j9x2cef wrote

He's not that bad for a GOP tool...honestly. I disagree with him on a number of things but if you're stuck under republican rule I would prefer him and his policies over some of the others out there. But also fuck him for not legalizing.

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dubauoo t1_j9x80m6 wrote

Not quite like his father

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maddy3191 t1_j9veitc wrote

As someone who is a True Democrat, I don’t hate him. I have only lived in NH since July, but I did vote for him for Governor in the Midterms.

His general ideas seem to be “the less the government can do the better.” Even if it means leaving money from the federal government on the table. (See NH’s highest residential Electric Rates in the continental 48) In addition, when ask about abortion, he said he thinks the law he signed was too restrictive, but his hands were tied. Otherwise, he hasn’t proposed anything new that I haven’t liked.

Environmentally he seems pretty central. As someone who works in the engineering field, I feel like he understands the issues and how they effect the state. He also did the AT which i feel like you have to have some environmental bones in you to do.

Socially I also don’t hate him, outside of reproductive care, He hasn’t done anything I have disagreed with, mainly cause I don’t think he has done anything at all. That’s probably fine for a mostly white NH, but I don’t know how that will translate nationally.

I also don’t think he is very electable nationally tbh. People who don’t like Trump really like DeSantis, and I am not sure the amount of republicans who don’t like either is enough for him to win the ticket. If he were to win the ticket though, I think he easy beats biden.

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Grand-Palpitation t1_j9uds2e wrote

just moved here from Maryland and I will be voting for Sununu. Unless a Pro-2A & Pro-Legalization candidate falls out of the sky. Or if there's one I don't know about lol

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therealbeth t1_j9xdr1e wrote

Welcome to New Hampshire! All candidates here are pro 2A lol

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pbrontap t1_j9v9oeu wrote

I like him based on the comments here. He not far enough left or right.

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NewPhoenix77 t1_j9wf1rz wrote

I plan on voting for him also. I do suspect that he may have greater ambitions.

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kberson t1_j9wjmwe wrote

Mostly harmless

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-cochise t1_j9u61w1 wrote

This is reddit, what kind of answers do you think you’re going to get? Look at the election results.

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pahnzoh t1_j9utrfb wrote

80% of reddit is democrats. Comments here confirm. Under 30 year old democrats.

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antzcrashing t1_j9wxs1y wrote

Good guy, idk if he has the recognition to be president yet

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Wide_Television_7074 t1_j9x7sbs wrote

he’s a great example of quality leadership during the Covid debacle. Look at how the blue state lockdown governors behaved… Mr. Sununu took a different position and he was proven right. I’m open to hearing how he can shrink government and effectuate change at the federal level.

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pahnzoh t1_j9usdpx wrote

Fell victim to the covid lockdown scam and instituted some stupid mask mandates. Less of a tyrant than what the democrats come up with. Overall not the worst politican, but that's not a high bar.

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