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Hereforthemadness1 t1_je7ern0 wrote

To each their own. I boil mine down a lot more then that, deep brown, then stovetop till 127*. But if you like it that way, then full speed ahead and enjoy!!

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Hereforthemadness1 t1_je7jr5c wrote

I’ve been boiling syrup for about 25 years, and learned from my father who boiled for his whole life… I can assure you, my syrup is not “overboiled”. Buy some “real” syrup and look at its color, that’s normal. I think it’s safer to say yours is significantly under boiled

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RickyDaytonaJr t1_je7kl6r wrote

I’ve made about 3 quarts and counting…and use the exact same glass bottles. I have two taps in one big tree and it gives me all the sap I can possibly handle without an actual evaporator. I use a turkey fryer in my garage. My syrup is very light early in the year and gets darker over the course of the season. I live at 1900 feet elevation, so mine finishes at around 216. It’s a fun hobby.

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SolitudeNH t1_je7kmd0 wrote

If that’s how you like it then good on you! But I’d agree with the other commenter here, it’s very light, nearly looks like bud sap.

But not casting hate here, boil to your own preference and enjoy

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Automatic-Raspberry3 t1_je7lglm wrote

Color does not mean anything on density. Actually the last 5 gals I made today had lighted up a lot from first 15 of the day. Nice hard freeze last night.

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Hereforthemadness1 t1_je7xjvx wrote

No…the richness of syrup is based on the sugar content which determines the color, hence why dark syrup runs slower, as it’s thicker because it has more sugar. I expect yours is fairly fluid when poured, not quite liquid but not slow like molasses. I think you took this a little too personally… I wasn’t trying to insult or anything, I was pretty clear about that, to each their own preference. I’m sorry if I offended you, I was simply trying to share my own syrup insight, not in contrast to yours but as an adjacent difference.

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Expensive_Staff2905 t1_je83gxq wrote

I would agree with you. All maple syrup should be a sugar content of 68%. A higher percentage and you make rock candy, any lower and you risk fermentation in the bottles. The color comes from the time of year and the quality of sap. Where we tap trees, our syrup tends toward the darker spectrum.

When I first started out with just a few trees. We often made light syrup.

I sometimes wonder if extreme heat from a bigger evaporator helps caramelize the sugar to a darker color. When I made syrup over a stovetop it was often lighter. Maybe I'll test this theory next year

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Hereforthemadness1 t1_je8a67x wrote

Facts…I don’t want to hear? I commented saying I boil mine darker… and you’re coming at me telling me I’m wrong, yet you say you aren’t upset? Maple syrup is brown. Go to any syrup shed in the north east and all of Canada and they’ll say your sap Is light colored. Not wrong, just light colored, which is all I said, I’ve just clearly struck a nerve.

Jesus this is why I should stay off Reddit, everyone’s so sensitive, I even tried to support you and you got offended.

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homebrewology t1_je9h9n9 wrote

RO is definitely worth the investment, especially on the smaller scale. I'm still using propane and made 8 gallons this year in 4 days of boiling. You remove 2/3 to 3/4 of the water before you get started with heat. Save a ton of fuel and time.

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musicals4life OP t1_je9jums wrote

Color is dictated by several factors. Per UNH "The pH of the boiling sap, sugar concentration, types of sugars in the sap, length of boiling time to produce syrup, the temperature outside, and even microbial activity all play a role in syrup color."

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musicals4life OP t1_je9kwwn wrote

No. You specifically said that my syrup was under boiled because of the color. And you also said that color is dictated by sugar content. Both of those statements are incorrect. I have said that and you didn't want to hear it.

Per UNH "Despite the wide range in color and flavor, all four grades are produced the same way—by boiling the sap until enough water has evaporated to reach maple syrup’s correct density of 66.9oBrix at room temperature. When the boiling sap reaches this density, it’s considered syrup." And "The pH of the boiling sap, sugar concentration, types of sugars in the sap, length of boiling time to produce syrup, the temperature outside, and even microbial activity all play a role in syrup color."

I have repeatedly stated that my syrup is the correct density and color. I used actual instruments to measure it. You took one look at it and said it wasn't finished because you eyeballed it for 25 years. That's what you didn't want to hear. Again this isn't me taking it personally. This is me telling you unequivocally that syrup this color is normal and fine and desirable. Syrup that "runs thicker" bc it has more sugar is overcooked. Full stop. Syrup of any grade should have the exact same sugar content. Any syrup shed in Canada will tell you the same things I have said. Any syrup shed in Canada is using a hydrometer to measure their product bc we have advanced beyond our eyeballs.

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akrasne t1_je9ngec wrote

He’s wrong your are right. Hydrometer says when it’s done. Color comes from impurities which are more present later in the year both in the tree and in the lines. Plenty of studies on this. There are grades of syrup based on it.

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akrasne t1_je9nwbv wrote

Pure sap from early season runs, look up maple syrup grade chart. They all have the same sugar contents and are all “done”. Must reach a certain density when tested on a hydrometer. Boil too long get crystallization in the bottles, too little and get mold.

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akrasne t1_je9olqn wrote

We have a decent sized setup in Stewartstown with a few hundred trees filling a 200gal holding tank. Tap nice and early, and some of the first runs in the past ended up being almost clear. Very light color and taste great We also are much more strict about cleanliness than most producers, which I believe plays a role. Clean evaporator entirely after every run for instance. Cheers

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Expensive_Staff2905 t1_je9r67u wrote

We run a small wood fired 1.5x6 hobby evaporator with about 100taps out. What would you say is a standard rate for cleaning? We are usually clean 2 to 3 times a season depending on sap quality and the weather.

This is just an extensive hobby for us that has built over the years. We try and boil off everything we collect in a 24hr period. It's difficult on those days that run hard though! Most of the 30 gallons we ended up bottling this year was medium to dark

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akrasne t1_je9thyd wrote

You’re doing just fine! Lots of the big operations don’t clean all year and they leave the pans sweet all season long. Ends up degrading color a lot by the end of the year. Lots of mineral deposits and cleaning at the end. No real need to boil right away either as long as you keep the sap well refrigerated. We keep our holding tank buried in snow. We sugar at our camp and can only get up once or twice a week. Most of the product being medium to dark is normal, it’s what makes the light runs so exciting. They are rare and usually get one or two shots at it per year and is a good incentive to get out and tap early!

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Puzzleheaded-Row-511 t1_je9zmko wrote

I work at a bigger maple farm and we're at 34k gallons! That's actually low for us. End of next week will probably be it for us. Hope everyone is having fun this sap season!!

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FreelanceNinjaM t1_jebre7p wrote

Before the picture loaded, I thought this was going to be an entirely different post.

Looks wonderful! 😍

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FreelanceNinjaM t1_jebrmg2 wrote

This is a stupid question so permission to bully me granted,

What happens if you tap other trees?

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