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smartest_kobold t1_j4wllr8 wrote

Reply to comment by marshal1257 in Asking for a friend, does anyone know what kind of drug test is issued to state police? by [deleted]

What state doesn't tell its Troopers that a polygraph is junk science?

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marshal1257 t1_j4wopom wrote

If you had any clue about law enforcement recruiting and the hiring process for COLEA certified agencies, you’d know that the polygraph is not only a requirement, but it is used as tool to further the selection process. The purpose of this is to place a truthful candidate at ease and also to heighten the anxiety of a candidate that might have something to hide. Based on the answers and the subjects reaction to questions, the examiner can use that response to dig deeper. Yeah, you are correct in that polygraphs are not always reliable and thus aren’t admissible in court. However, as a hiring tool, they are invaluable for rooting out unfit candidates. It’s not uncommon for polygraphs to to discover a history of Illegal activity, heavy drug use, illicit sex activities including beastiality and pedophelia, and ulterior motives for wanting the job.

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TacoLoco2 t1_j4wrpee wrote

Easy, easy, me officer. How about the fact that they cut one leg of the chair shorter than the other? Or ask questions like, ‘do you look in the toilet after you shit’…what’s that telling us? And if you know the administrator or know someone who knows the administrator, none of it matters.

They do not rule out bad candidates as evidenced by that Laurie list of shitty cops in the state that continue to be supported as law enforcement even though they are known liars. If it worked, there would be no list because the cops hired would be great people.

The polygraph is a farce.

And my tip to the person who posted this, shave the head, drink tons of water, and deny deny deny. If they can’t prove it, don’t admit to it. Do not waiver from the denial because they WILL mess with you and say something came up when it didn’t. They just mindfuck you into contradictions yourself.

Also, also, don’t be a cop. Sorry retired officer, I respect good cops, but there is a generation of people that don’t respect any cops. Too much risk and very little reward.

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[deleted] OP t1_j4wsfqy wrote

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TacoLoco2 t1_j4xeq3k wrote

Huh?? Yeah, it is junk science. And slavery was once legal, but we don’t do that anymore either, so finding out something is bullshit is good. And yeah, physical fitness that differs by age and sex is bullshit too. Just means a woman is more likely to fear for her life and shoot someone rather than a man who can defend himself. All these cop rules are broken routinely in order to hire sons, daughters, and other people who shouldn’t be cops. Fuk the hiring process. It’s bullshit and clearly doesn’t work

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smartest_kobold t1_j4wxpsk wrote

It's a mood ring with a billion dollar reputation. The only use for a polygraph is to bully the gullible into saying what you want.

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marshal1257 t1_j4xf328 wrote

You’re clearly an expert on polygraphs, which is why I’m surprised that you don’t know that selection process polygraphs are based solely on answers that the applicant gives on a pre-test. No one is bullied into answering one way or another.

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