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BeamStop23 t1_ja956jh wrote

Reply to comment by kirstarry in Student charged after bullied New Jersey school girl takes her own life by r4816

Because the school is not a jury. Zero tolerance didn't come from thin air, it came from students-parents arguing in regards to who is at-fault. Ultimately with it it leads to more violence and increased financial liability on the school. Better to have an unbiased white black rule that suspends both students. No claims about bias, racism, etc. If there are criminal or civil claims you can go get a judge and jury.

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GoodLt t1_ja9biwf wrote

>Because the school is not a jury

No. Punishing the victim along with the assailant is not justice, it's not fair, it's not moral, and it's not protecting anybody.

Find out who is the bully, and discipline them up to an including legal charges. Charge the parents if they try to stop it.

TEACH THE ASSAILANTS THAT THEY WILL NOT BE TOLERATED.

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BeamStop23 t1_ja9haya wrote

This is one of those things that only makes sense in writing. Reality is that it's no different than if you got in a brawl at a bar, restaurant, etc. You don't get to come back inside like nothing happened. Your tab gets closed and you are kicked out. Not having the rule simply leads to more violence. It's the same reason why self defense castle doctrine states are linked to having MORE murders than not, and these are adult brains. You are suggesting that you have 14 year old brains deciding whether or not they are justified in commiting violence, with the idea they can argue along with their 50 year parent with also the same brain as a 14 year old that they shouldn't receive any consequences. For every justified self defense action will be multiple more needless violence.

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