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BeamStop23 t1_jaav861 wrote
Reply to comment by xbnm in Student charged after bullied New Jersey school girl takes her own life by r4816
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You are making a lot of assumptions. The father has never said she's been involved in multiple fights with this group at school if anything the opposite. His beef with the superintendent is that they suspended the bullies but he thinks if they were arrested somehow the student bystanders wouldn't have shared the videos.
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There's absolutely no way to ban cellphone use in schools short of having a prison like inspection system
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Everyone is or has been bullied. There's absolutely not enough money in the school system to manage what is thousands of teen students personal interactions both in person or online every single day including weekends. A typical prison is 4 to 1 staff. A highschool it's not uncommon to have 30-50 students per staff member. It's just literally impossible to handle. If the bully has developmental/aggression issues and is on a non-standard education (e.g IEP, 504, etc) they cannot be legally expelled. Other than that yes the students can be expelled and if your made-up theory that the same bully regularly assaulted her then they'd have been expelled. Even then she'd have just been bullied online which was actually the father's complaints. It wasn't the fight it was what was going on on social media. Truth is that if your child has a persistent bully, don't rely on the school it's not a daycare, or prison, and it's not a justice system. Seek retribution from law enforcement and a judge, you don't need an attorney to do this.
BeamStop23 t1_ja9haya wrote
Reply to comment by GoodLt in Student charged after bullied New Jersey school girl takes her own life by r4816
This is one of those things that only makes sense in writing. Reality is that it's no different than if you got in a brawl at a bar, restaurant, etc. You don't get to come back inside like nothing happened. Your tab gets closed and you are kicked out. Not having the rule simply leads to more violence. It's the same reason why self defense castle doctrine states are linked to having MORE murders than not, and these are adult brains. You are suggesting that you have 14 year old brains deciding whether or not they are justified in commiting violence, with the idea they can argue along with their 50 year parent with also the same brain as a 14 year old that they shouldn't receive any consequences. For every justified self defense action will be multiple more needless violence.
BeamStop23 t1_ja956jh wrote
Reply to comment by kirstarry in Student charged after bullied New Jersey school girl takes her own life by r4816
Because the school is not a jury. Zero tolerance didn't come from thin air, it came from students-parents arguing in regards to who is at-fault. Ultimately with it it leads to more violence and increased financial liability on the school. Better to have an unbiased white black rule that suspends both students. No claims about bias, racism, etc. If there are criminal or civil claims you can go get a judge and jury.
BeamStop23 t1_ja93bm7 wrote
Reply to comment by lost_in_life_34 in Student charged after bullied New Jersey school girl takes her own life by r4816
A school is an institute of learning. Outside of suspending or expelling students, that's the extent of there reach. Anything else is left to the criminal justice system. You are more than welcome to provide what else can be done besides removing the student that the school can do legally.
BeamStop23 t1_ja92ql6 wrote
Reply to comment by lotusvagabond in Student charged after bullied New Jersey school girl takes her own life by r4816
How did the superintendent allow her to get beat up. Seemed like security was swift and the school has no control over the Internet.
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Reply to comment by ferocious_coug in The NJCLASS/HESAA Loan system needs to be destroyed. Never get a loan from them. by BeamStop23
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Reply to comment by ferocious_coug in The NJCLASS/HESAA Loan system needs to be destroyed. Never get a loan from them. by BeamStop23
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BeamStop23 t1_j4wfigh wrote
Reply to comment by rockmasterflex in If Governor Murphy is serious about equity in this state, he should push for improving public libraries. by Flashinglights0101
Police is a big one, if you exclude DC. New jersey has the most police per Capita then the rest of America. We spend billions on them every year.
BeamStop23 t1_ithryev wrote
Reply to comment by Heythatsmybikeeeee in Carriage horse Ryder dies months after infamous collapse on Midtown streets by Tasty-Barracuda-6980
So it's been about a week. I do apologize, the horse was not in the owners care until earlier this year. The horse also actually died from cancer which explains the weightloss. I'm not necessarily buying the horse dying from a 90 degree heat day when horses are desert animals and wild horses still exist in desserts. So for me personally on one hand we shouldn't have horses dying from old age diseases on the road, on the other I don't support killing them for export to China. Given that it's "career" ended long ago, do you think it should have been killed?
BeamStop23 t1_isxrenp wrote
Reply to comment by SuffrnSuccotash in Carriage horse Ryder dies months after infamous collapse on Midtown streets by Tasty-Barracuda-6980
Which directly contradicts the outrage culture's decision that it died because of towing on asphalt and heat. That's why it's never smart to come to conclusions without having all the facts available.
BeamStop23 t1_issey7m wrote
Reply to comment by spageddy_lee in Carriage horse Ryder dies months after infamous collapse on Midtown streets by Tasty-Barracuda-6980
Well human's choosing this for animals is a moral discussion. I'm just saying that this video has a lot of "shock" value and outrage culture is very easy to get clicks from. The things being said about the owner online from the video is disturbing considering he didn't do anything wrong in how he handled the collapse. It is just as likely that over 30 years he has a bond with the horse, it's longevity is linked to how much work he's put into keeping him healthy, and is saddened by the loss. Given it's age I wouldn't even be surprised if the horse wasn't even making him any money. In the industry I'd have been normal to have him killed a long time ago.
BeamStop23 t1_issbpyp wrote
Reply to comment by theelljar in Carriage horse Ryder dies months after infamous collapse on Midtown streets by Tasty-Barracuda-6980
Not that I agree with the industry but based on how capitalism works there's no reason to NOT take care of the primary source of what's making you money. It's like owning a work truck, you'd be inclined to keep it in top shape. The average lifespan of a wild horse is 15, in captivity they can live 10 years longer. There is no evidence that the horse was "abused", outside of working at old age. This horse was at least 30 years old, much older than horses in other industries. So I hope the people upset understand that this horse in literally all other industries would have been deemed "useless" and euthanized/executed several years ago. So those complaining are essentially saying the horse should have been killed a long time ago, and have no clue as to what goes on in other horsing industries, they are far closer to cattle than pets under law, as seen here.
BeamStop23 t1_irk8crh wrote
Reply to comment by Ok_Read701 in China has secret station in NYC as part of network to track dissidents by solo-ran
Thanks lol
BeamStop23 t1_irj7x57 wrote
Reply to comment by Environmental_Toe843 in China has secret station in NYC as part of network to track dissidents by solo-ran
No there definitely is something to it. A close associate of mine in America with citizenship but is Chinese and in education will talk about anything political but when i talk about the changes in education in China, or anything political in China, he's non-responsive. I'm just now learning that once you leave China you are still never 100% free. And what you do in America can effect those you have living in China, or can restrict you from ever visiting China again.
BeamStop23 t1_jaawrdv wrote
Reply to comment by sagenumen in Student charged after bullied New Jersey school girl takes her own life by r4816
it's the same premise as stand your ground
In the same way that the above simply leads to more people killing each other. Giving 13 year olds the responsibility on whether or not they should resort to violence just leads to more unnecessary violence. Zero tolerance reduces fighting in school and removes any accusations of racism, favoritism, bias, etc. No need to play judge and jury, etc. Everyone just goes home and gets time to chill out. If you have a bully and want to fight them that bad, take it off school grounds, or eat the suspension. Most students will recognize that it's not worth it and learn self control or how to handle a stressful situation nonviolently