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buddy0813 t1_jdc4tkd wrote

Reply to comment by NotTobyFromHR in Active shooter in Monmouth University, stay safe you guys by Redplushie

This is so ridiculous that I thought you were joking, but that's really what it says. How on earth do you mistake a curling iron for a gun? And how did they think shots were fired? This is so bizarre.

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thebaddmoon t1_jdc6nv8 wrote

A few years ago I was in a mall in boca raton. I was in the tesla store sitting in the drivers seat of a tesla playing with all the fart noises etc when I looked up (the car faced out the store window into the mall corridor) and saw a sea of people running for their life and screaming, literally trampling each other and tripping. I jumped out the window of the car and locked myself in the back office with the other people who were in the store. We were there for almost an hour before the police came and escorted us out. They ran us through a back hallway that connected to all of the stores and lead to a loading dock where we exited into the parking lot. We passed the SWAT team as they were coming into the building. Across the street from the mall at a restaurant we heard a young girl who had heard the shots and got separated from her mom. I called my parents, told them I was safe, and a few hours got on my plane and headed back to Newark.

When my plane landed and I took my phone off of airplane mode, I googled the Boca Raton mass shooting and the headline read “popped balloon mistaken for active shooter causes mass hysteria”.

It’s fascinated me ever since that the fear of being shot is just below the surface enough that once one person ignited it, it spread throughout an entire mall like a contagious disease.

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Engibineer t1_jdc8r21 wrote

There was a panic and stampede I think at JFK a couple of years ago. People were evacuated to the tarmac. It turned out that the alleged gunfire that set it off was people clapping to celebrate something happening on one of the TVs.

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whskid2005 t1_jdcfg77 wrote

I worked at a mall in NJ. We had quite a few “active shooter” situations. The trouble is most people are not entirely sure of what a gun sounds like so that motorcycle backfire or tire pop that then echoes around the mall corridors COULD be a gun so they freak out. Then people see them freaking out and it spirals out of control because everyone would rather be safe than sorry because WHAT IF. The one real situation involved someone who wanted some attention before killing themself so they popped off a few rounds sending the mall into a complete lockdown. The cops finally found the person in a construction area in the mall. Sad situation.

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the_last_carfighter t1_jdcoexm wrote

>I worked at a mall in NJ. We had quite a few “active shooter” situations. The trouble is most people are not entirely sure of what a gun sounds like

So the NRA is right we need way more guns so this doesn't happen. Big ol /s on that one because here we are.

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jjm006 t1_jdd3nvu wrote

Happened at the Garden State Plaza a few years back. A display fell over and went boom.

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vague_diss t1_jdcgos4 wrote

Asking the wrong question- why do we live in a country so heavily armed, with so few mental health resources, that we have to worry about anything gun shaped? Why do we have to have lock down drills and shelter in place plans to begin with?

How do you mistake a curling iron for a gun? Could it be we’ve already had over 100 mass shootings this year? Could it be a generation of kids trained monthly to “run, hide, fight” are rightfully suspicious and scared for their lives?

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weylandyutanicmc t1_jdcyrch wrote

Because we have a gang problem. That's where you get almost all your mass shootings from, and the news pushes that like it'll happen to you.

If you don't hang out with gangs, you aren't going to get shot.

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Sudovoodoo80 t1_jddfoc4 wrote

No dude. It's the guns. You just don't want to see it for what it is.

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weylandyutanicmc t1_jddkmb9 wrote

Glad to hear that Patterson and Camden are finally fixed

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Sudovoodoo80 t1_jddll9o wrote

Guess they just need some more guns. That should solve it.

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Sudovoodoo80 t1_jdep8x0 wrote

That is what the US has been doing for the last 20 years, making it easier for the law abiding to get and carry guns. Has gun crime decreased in any way? Or has it increased? Maybe if we want a different outcome, we need a different approach. Maybe more guns isn't the answer to preventing gun deaths.

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Motivator9931 t1_jddcy5k wrote

So all the kids that get murdered in elementary schools or people killed while attending churches are part of gangs??? What the hell are you talking about?

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weylandyutanicmc t1_jddhfes wrote

Very rare.

The vast majority of "mass shootings" are inner city shootouts, in gun control paradise. That's not debatable.

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Motivator9931 t1_jddjilg wrote

Clearly it's not rare because almost every day there's another mass shooting in a grocery store, church, school, mall, or whatever else. This is a US problem and one that exists because of guns.

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weylandyutanicmc t1_jddjoio wrote

Oh cool, which one was today? And yesterday?

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my_fake_acct_ t1_jddqpmm wrote

Here's yesterday's https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/03/22/us/colorado-denver-school-shooting/index.html

Here's the attempted one the day before https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/heroic-security-guards-stop-armed-man-devil-mask/story?id=98026971

Here's Monday https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2023/03/20/suspect-in-custody-after-shooting-at-lamar-high-school-in-arlington-injures-2/?outputType=amp

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weylandyutanicmc t1_jddvdv7 wrote

You've got two murders and a maybe, none of those even qualify as mass shootings due to the highly targeted nature. None are indiscriminate, and at least one of the two was almost certainly gang related, proving my point.

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nicklor t1_jddm3tp wrote

Exactly it is a problem but it's more like monthly than when weekly

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febrewary t1_jdc610m wrote

Yeah I really don't understand the people who were saying they heard stuff? I guess they were paranoid??

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Mamakaralee t1_jdcxvkv wrote

I was like WHY ARE THEY JOKING ABOUT THIS, come to find out they were telling the truth😂

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