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Hrekires t1_jcyuuz4 wrote

That's going to be a real blow to some towns.

It's wild to me that I can literally stand on my parents' front porch in Kearny and see the Manhattan skyline, but it takes me longer to commute into the city from there than it does from my house in Cranford 30 minutes further away.

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thebruns t1_jcyyblg wrote

Fun fact, Kearny had commuter rail service just 20 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arlington_station_(NJ_Transit)

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Hrekires t1_jcyzegm wrote

There's even a cute neighborhood around where the train station was with some apartment buildings, restaurants, and delis. Kinda felt bad for them all when the station closed.

With DeCamp pulling out, pretty sure that means no way to get from Kearny to NYC other than taking a bus to Newark Penn or a bus to the train station in East Rutherford but no one-seat rides as close as it is.

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impracticable t1_jcz3b2i wrote

does the Path in Harrison not count as a way into the city?

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Hrekires t1_jcz3zkd wrote

It's definitely not a one-seat ride into the city given that you have to either drive to the PATH station (and pay for parking) or take a bus there that's just as long as the bus to Newark.

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impracticable t1_jcz4zfk wrote

I know this isn’t for everyone, but I live in Kearny and walk to the PATH station every day, lol. It really is not that far.

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Hrekires t1_jcz5xie wrote

Definitely not for everyone. Lol

Google Maps lists it as a 1 hour walk from my parents' house to the PATH station, and then another 50 minutes via mass transit + walking from the PATH to my office.

The original post here was pointing out that it's crazy for it to take less time for me to commute in from further away in Cranford.

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impracticable t1_jcz8q9g wrote

Interesting. My entire commute door to desk, including a walk to the PATH and intentional detours for comfort, is only about 50 minutes, and. costs me about $6 per day on a one-off basis. On a day where I really don't feel like walking I can take a shuttle bus to the PATH and shave 20 minutes off, but I really prefer not to do that.

If I were to take the DeCamp bus, Google says my commute would be (1) a 20 minutes walk to the DeCamp stop (2) 37 minutes on the DeCamp bus (3) 20 minutes on the NYC subway (4) another 5 minutes walk to my office, for a grand total of about 1 hour and 22 minutes, and a cost of about $20 per day on a one-off. basis.

I think there's a reason why so many people who live in town work downtown rather than uptown (and why that number seems to increasing proportionally), and it is likely part of the reason why the economies of running these routes no longer makes sense for DeCamp.

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thebruns t1_jczp46n wrote

You know Kearny extends beyond your home right?

Its a 45 minute walk from the closed train station to PATH

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/40.7725665,-74.1441884/40.7394025,-74.1555632/@40.7608165,-74.1606901,14z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e2

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impracticable t1_jczpy76 wrote

Yeah, I specifically said "I know this isn't for everyone," and I made commentary about why I think these factors are precisely why we're seeing development in the areas we are, and changes to the demographic to support the type of commuting that I do and away from other types of commuting. The geographical location of Kearny suits one much more heavily over the other.

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pu1pfriction t1_jd0ek4m wrote

Even from ShopRite it's an almost 30 minute walk to the PATH station and that's probably one of the southernmost places in Kearny

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Atuk-77 t1_jczz1gy wrote

Paying for parking and then a path ticket is less expensive than driving into the city.

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Nexis4Jersey t1_jcz957m wrote

The PATH is only good if you're within walking distance of the Harrison Station or are transferring from a connecting service at Newark Penn. Frank Rodgers during rush hour is gridlock ,and it's like that for 2hrs in the morning and 2hrs in the evening. So driving down from Kearny might take 45-1hr...

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impracticable t1_jcza89t wrote

What? No. Lol. This is an extraordinary and extreme exaggeration. I have driven in and out of the Harrison PATH many times during rush hour and it takes 10-15 minutes tops. The only time it’s gridlock is if there’s a Red Bulls game.

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Nexis4Jersey t1_jczc0b3 wrote

Is it? Traffic is backed up deep into the Ironbound and It's been like that during rush hour more so in the afternoon for the last 5 or 6 yrs. Game days are just the icing on the cake...

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impracticable t1_jczc689 wrote

I have no idea what happens in Newark. This was about commuting from Kearny to Harrison, not from Newark to Harrison lol. I would imagine that the layout of the roads in Newark creates some heavy bottlenecks, though.

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kravikula t1_jczje8v wrote

The problem is the traffic lights after Jackson St Bridge coming out of Newark work in funky out sync way.

Seriously from the bridge to the Harrison path station is a good 15 min to , plus all the bottle neck those light helped generate in Newark.

After the Harrison path station it tends to flow better.

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thebruns t1_jcyzm4n wrote

One would hope NJT steps up with replacement service, but Murphy doesnt really care

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StuMaximuss t1_jd2h8mw wrote

That’s a ridiculous statement. You’re probably a covid denying trump traitor who trolls writers on patch.com

Those knuckleheads blame Murphy for everything

NJT was the LEASE HOLDER for DeCamp, they will take over those routes and make everyone’s life better

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StuMaximuss t1_jd2foj3 wrote

It will be a boost to them, Decamp was a shitty unreliable company. NJT will be better for all of them.

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