Submitted by greenhousecrtv t3_yh3el1 in newjersey
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SailingSpark t1_iuc2bds wrote
Not if towns like Ocean City have their way.
onlyme1984 t1_iuc2vnb wrote
Guessing that they’re not on board with this
-MACHO-MAN- t1_iucen7i wrote
good, any energy that is greener and us-based is a positive at this point
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brain_gotta_poop t1_iud3ubp wrote
I heard those things cause cancer. >!/s!<
heyitsmikep t1_iud7xt9 wrote
People 5 miles inland are going to complain about their ruined "view".
s1ugg0 t1_iud8ie1 wrote
Sustainable energy from aesthetically pleasing power generators bringing permanent well paying jobs. Clearly a threat to the quality of life of Ocean City residents. /s
ImRedditorRick t1_iud8sf0 wrote
These cunts only care about their view.
s1ugg0 t1_iud9mpg wrote
oatmealparty t1_iudchv8 wrote
I never understood why people think wind turbines ruin their view, I think they look great. Most likely just making up excuses to oppose renewable energy, the same way right wingers say shit like "but what about the birds killed by wind energy?" or "but there's so much mercury in CFL bulbs!"
s1ugg0 t1_iuddfjs wrote
I agree with you. I also like the way they look.
Automatic-Crow-5394 t1_iudephw wrote
How about when oil starts leaking out of them or they start burning or the upkeep costs more than what they produce. How environmentally safe is that? Do your research before you start trashing people!
shant_jan t1_iudhga9 wrote
playing the smallest violin for the view from their summer homes
MaxCapricorn t1_iudikuk wrote
I seem to recall driving past a coal power plant on my way in to Ocean City for my entire life. They can take it easy. Wind turbines are definitely an upgrade over that gigantic cooling tower.
mattemer t1_iudj9sa wrote
Birds aren't even real.
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Duh-2020 t1_iudk9m9 wrote
Every source of energy and every location has some negative. Risks vs costs vs benefits, a conundrum as old as the earth itself. Those risks and costs are always "minimal" unless you are directly affected by them. For example people are killed every day by hitting or damaged utility poles. Did we totally eliminate them to do away with that risk of one falling over while you're at a stoplight and getting you. Sometimes in some places we do by moving utilities underground. Of course then other risks from that. The cost of moving them underground are substantially more than leaving them on poles. Some places have decided those costs are worth the benefits, other places haven't. Same applies to generation. Unfortunately, the choice has to be made between different costs and different risks and different benefits. We are world dependent on cheap energy. There's never an easy answer.
JaredBanyard t1_iudkwyo wrote
You may want to look at wind power vs domestic cats and how deadly they are to the bird population.
LeftHandedAnt t1_iudp00q wrote
I'm sure we can come up with some tech to keep the birds away. Sounds like a challenge for some NJ high schools or colleges to me. Maybe State funded.
Edit: Here's a freebie to get everyone rolling because I love CS and animals. A fleet of AI drones that intercept incoming flocks and play an incredibly irritating sound when in the vicinity of the birds until their vector is acceptable. There. Enjoy. They could station and charge right on top of the turbines.
slibberynibble t1_iudp451 wrote
LBI too so many people have those move them 35 miles out save lbi signs on their lawn
ophidiophobia_py_dev t1_iudqac7 wrote
Don't worry they'll be under water by then
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SailingSpark t1_iudrb88 wrote
I work in Atlantic City near the turbines there. I think they look good and they do not bother the view at all. If anything the sewerage plant they are located at looks better because of the turbines.
SailingSpark t1_iudrhsb wrote
BL England. It was converted from Coal to oil and is now in the process of being torn down completely. They collapsed the cooling tower last month.
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jerseygunz t1_iudvs68 wrote
Don’t forget good old fashioned habitat destruction!
Basedrum777 t1_iudyb2q wrote
That we paid for after they got destroyed in sandy.....
OfficerGenious t1_iue0104 wrote
Share research?
ImRedditorRick t1_iue08es wrote
It's just an insane, moronic argument because there is NO good reason to not go renewable in many cases, but the right had made it a political thing, so they have to latch onto something to explain why they're opposed to it
Eatcake9 t1_iue0g99 wrote
They wanted to originally convert it to Nat Gas but it would have required a new pipeline directly through the Pinelands.
mooslar t1_iue3nec wrote
Ah yes because even one of those accidents happen, that makes it dirtier than our current options for power generation…
mooslar t1_iue3t3b wrote
Such an ignorant uneducated opinion. Did you come up with that yourself or are you parroting somebody else’s propaganda?
SailingSpark t1_iue45fu wrote
Yes, and I am glad that got shut down
h0w13 t1_iue5h56 wrote
They're still planning on putting these like 15 miles out, right?
People seem to be under the impression that you'll be staring up at them from the edge of the waters. I don't think there's an appreciation for how far 15 miles is.
Long Beach Island is 18ish miles long. From the top of the waterslides in Beach Haven, you can't see the lighthouse in Barnegat Light. Windmills would be the same.
h0w13 t1_iue5qhz wrote
Which is just a ludicrous distance offshore
TheBombDimitri t1_iue91ye wrote
Exactly. Lewes has a turbine on the beach that Uof Delaware owns. It's about the same distance to Cape May. I know exactly where it is and 90% of the time it is visible it takes a me a minute to find it on the horizon and you can barely see it. More often than not it is too hazy to see.
The_Band_Geek t1_iuehkvu wrote
Upvoted to offset everyone who doesn't understand the sarcasm.
Automatic-Crow-5394 t1_iuemqxp wrote
For the power you need to supply nj you would need thousands of them. Don't forget murphy will try to pass it because he put alot of money into it. What will happen to ocean life and the upkeep and where do you put the broken plastic which won't degrade so tell me again how environmentally safe it is!
ryhighnoon t1_iueuh3p wrote
Nuclear >
CapeManiac t1_iufeslg wrote
Jokes on them. Soon enough water front property will be inland enough to not see the turbines.
TripleThreat1212 t1_iug03d2 wrote
offshore windmill ocean habitat impact research paper shows that the windmills create artificial reefs beneficial to marine life
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Comfortable_Vast1946 t1_iuh6fmr wrote
Those turbine blades are not recyclable or biodegradable and end up in landfills, there's more controversy with them i believe.
itsSRL t1_iuhtj2x wrote
Which part is uneducated? Windmills to kill thousands of birds a year. And i said i wish we moved towards nuclear, which is the cleanest source of energy. What part is propoganda?
itsSRL t1_iuhtoct wrote
What does this have to do with windmills killing birds and my wish to move towards nuclear?
itsSRL t1_iuhu7mn wrote
I love how i provide a factual statement, than even propose an alternative towards a different power source and i get down voted as well as having people put sarcastic comments. Good discussion
onlyme1984 t1_iuc17w7 wrote
Doc Brown would lose his mind if he heard this. 11 gigawatts powering millions of homes by 2040