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scarletknut t1_ixtvp19 wrote

you cannot claim Italian pastry and pizza. There is an endemic Italian population here in NJ that was making and selling those products to the public at the same time as their New York counterparts— most of them never lived in NYC

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sutisuc t1_ixx3kxr wrote

What we think of as NY/NJ pizza was first developed in NYC though

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[deleted] t1_ixv42l8 wrote

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Isosceles_Kramer_ t1_ixvcz1b wrote

I think the “New Yorkers” you’re referring to are just self-aware New Jerseyans.

NYC has food (both diversity and quality), entertainment (nightlife, broadway), culture significantly above Jersey.

It’s unfair to Jersey as a state to say we have better stuff to NY in those regards. We’re great in our own regard.

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